Australian or Indonesian ?

[Leefrogs]

O I C!!!! Good to know they're born with them. Because the boys and blue phase were both unhappy brown in the store, and I left them alone allot at first, I wasn't sure they got them after they got home.

[Kisa]

haha, well, it is exactly like "amisbeef" said, how they don't ever completely go brown, only the top of them turns to a real light brown, and the sides are still vividly green.

Regarding the spots, mine have had them since they were tiny froglets (they became visible when they were fully grown tadpoles).

Yeah my little baby blue has spots already, and a white stripe on either side of his head. The blue phase are purely Aussie right? Or can they be Indie too? For some reason I always assumed the blues were Aussie only, I could be wrong though. From looking at little Mr. Wayne though I can see that he has more Aussie-like features, more definition in the face and smaller ridges, but he is just a baby after all. XD

[spankyg]

Yeah my little baby blue has spots already, and a white stripe on either side of his head. The blue phase are purely Aussie right? Or can they be Indie too? For some reason I always assumed the blues were Aussie only, I could be wrong though. From looking at little Mr. Wayne though I can see that he has more Aussie-like features, more definition in the face and smaller ridges, but he is just a baby after all. XD

He sounds Aussie, mine have those distinctive white streaks on either side of their heads running down to the base of their arms as well. Have no idea about the blue phase frogs.. to be honest I've never seen one down here that's blue.. this is probly because they are produced through the selective breeding of (apparently)Australian whites with the most blue coloration. I do believe that Australian Whites tend to be more vibrant, with colors closer to brighter shades of green with the infrequent occurrence of aqua, cyan and turquoise. Breeders undoubtedly morphed these rarities and created what you now have as the “Blue Whites”. Without question, these Blue Whites would stand out like a sore thumb in the wild, they wouldn’t stand a chance to predators (probly why I haven’t seen them,). And frogs are an extremely rare pet in Australia, (I’ve never come across one in any pet shop down here before) so you won't find them there either.

[Kisa]

He sounds Aussie, mine have those distinctive white streaks on either side of their heads running down to the base of their arms as well. Have no idea about the blue phase frogs.. to be honest I've never seen one down here that's blue.. this is probly because they are produced through the selective breeding of (apparently)Australian whites with the most blue coloration. I do believe that Australian Whites tend to be more vibrant, with colors closer to brighter shades of green with the infrequent occurrence of aqua, cyan and turquoise. Breeders undoubtedly morphed these rarities and created what you now have as the “Blue Whites”. Without question, these Blue Whites would stand out like a sore thumb in the wild, they wouldn’t stand a chance to predators (probly why I haven’t seen them,). And frogs are an extremely rare pet in Australia, (I’ve never come across one in any pet shop down here before) so you won't find them there either.

Wow really? I figured they were more rare out here, that's some really good information to know.

And I had wondered about that stripe he has, Bruce Campbell doesn't have it (as he is light brown most of the time) and I haven't seen any White's with it before, but that's neat that yours have it. I'll have to take a closer look at their pictures.

And I believe you're right about the selective breeding. I heard somewhere (sorry I don't remember. ><) That blue phase individuals are bred from frogs that lack the yellow pigment in the skin that makes them so green, so when we see a green frog it's pigment is technically a mix of blue and yellow and the blue appears when that yellow pigment is missing. Or something like that. XD I could be wrong though, this is just a theory.

You're probably right about them in the wild too, I didn't think about the implications of blue frogs amongst green and brown backgrounds but it would be safe to assume that if there are any wild blue phase, they've been eaten up or will be soon.

[spankyg]

Wow really? I figured they were more rare out here, that's some really good information to know.

And I had wondered about that stripe he has, Bruce Campbell doesn't have it (as he is light brown most of the time) and I haven't seen any White's with it before, but that's neat that yours have it. I'll have to take a closer look at their pictures.

Yeah, the white streaks/spots arent as large as your little guys..

Here is a clearer picture of what I'm talking about >>



Some are larger on the other ones, and some are smaller... but they all have it.

[Kisa]

Oh I see now, wow those spots really seem to give the frog character. Maybe that's why breeders covet spots. XD

You have beautiful White's by the way, born and raised in their native country I'm sure they thrive. I wish Bruce was that bright green color...but I picked him when he was brown and suppose he's resigned to that color now. Oh well, he wouldn't be my Bruce Campbell if he was green, he'd probably look much different in my eyes. XD