Darwin just laying with eyes closed

[Madelon]

No, I dont have AC and Im pretty well insulated, so it doesnt cool off much during the night, certainly not under 75F. I keep the windows closed during the day so it doesnt get too hot. It does get a lot more humid sometimes after a thunderstorm, but I didnt think that was a problem?

[GrifTheGreat]

No, I dont have AC and Im pretty well insulated, so it doesnt cool off much during the night, certainly not under 75F. I keep the windows closed during the day so it doesnt get too hot. It does get a lot more humid sometimes after a thunderstorm, but I didnt think that was a problem?

Any strange behavior? Did the frog try and aestivate when it was younger?

[Madelon]

He's always been a super difficult and picky eater, but he actually seemed to develop a liking for earthworms recently. He never aestivated, although he has had periods of several weeks of no eating before, and constipation once right after I got him, but a water bath fixed that

[GrifTheGreat]

He's always been a super difficult and picky eater, but he actually seemed to develop a liking for earthworms recently. He never aestivated, although he has had periods of several weeks of no eating before, and constipation once right after I got him, but a water bath fixed that

I am not sure whats wrong, but I'm going to suggest a Pedialyte bath. Go out and buybsome UNFLAVORED Pedialyte. Prepare a bath with a solution at a 1 to 10 ratio. So for every 10 ounces of dechlorinated water add 1 ounce unflavored Pedialyte. The water must be luke warm and no deeper than up to the frog's chin. Add 2 drops of honey to the solution and dissolve it.

Once the bath is ready soak the frog for 20 minutes of until the bath begins to cool. After time is up or the water cools prepare a second bath of just dechlorinated water. Same temp and depth. Soak the frog for another 20 minutes or until the water cools.

After this second bath place luke warm dechlorinated water in the frog's water dish and return the frog home but place him in his water dish. Then let him be.

There is no guarantee that this will work, but it is worth a try.

Keep me posted.

[SCF]

Any strange behavior? Did the frog try and aestivate when it was younger?

Not trying to derail this thread, but i'm curious where you were going with early aestivation attempts? Purely out of curiosity. I'm not a keeper of this species, so i'm just asking for knowledge.

[SCF]

Maybe a fecal test would be in order as well for OP.

[Madelon]

Thanks, I'll get pedialyte and honey first thing in the morning. How long after the baths until I should try feeding?

[SCF]

Thanks, I'll get pedialyte and honey first thing in the morning. How long after the baths until I should try feeding?

What method do you use typically to feed? Tong feeding, in a separate enclosure, in a "feeding" bowl?

[Madelon]

I feed earthworms using tongs and I always had to rub them on his lips. Now he jest backs away when I try that, he never opens his mouth or bites at all

[DVirginiana]

How do you feed? If he's been off food for so long and always a poor eater, you may want to start doing 'aggravated feedings'. Basically, you touch the frog's mouth and feet with the food until it gets mad and bites. Yes, it is somewhat stressful, but nowhere near as much as force-feeding, and this guy looks like he needs nutrients right away.

Not sure how long after the pedialyte bath you need to wait, if at all. I'd wait at least several hours just because being taken out and put in a bath will probably stress him, and they're less likely to eat after something stressful.

[GrifTheGreat]

Not trying to derail this thread, but i'm curious where you were going with early aestivation attempts? Purely out of curiosity. I'm not a keeper of this species, so i'm just asking for knowledge.

Aestivation is extremely stressful and in most cases results in death of very young frogs. In the wild they do aestivate well before reaching adulthood, but in captivity it can be difficult to replicate the necessary conditions and if the conditions are not right the either dies or suffers some kind of trauma. Almost like the frog is in a perminant state between aestivation and being awake. Very sluggish behavior and almost no appetite.

That is not the case here. I'm afraid that this may be a case of the frog being unable to thrive, but I've seen some runts or stunted frogs live decent lives. 1 year for a very stunted frog is actually good. I just cannot pinpoint what the problem may be so I offered a bath to provide energy, hydration, and nutrients to try and give the frog and energy boost so that it may start to eat again.