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    Darwin seems sick, he hasnt eaten in over a month now, and the last week he's just laying on his belly with his eyes closed. He doesnt take worms like he normally eats, and also no crickets or even a pinky. First I just thought he was molting, but he molted and theres no difference. He doesnt look constipated but he seems so lethargic, didnt even pee on me when I moved him a little to have a good look at him. Im worried that he's slowly dying and I dont know what to do!
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    Default Re: Darwin just laying with eyes closed

    Answer these questions and post the answers here. http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html

    Does he move at all when you touch him? Does he ever open his eyes?


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    Put him in some luke warm water, but he's still got one eye almost closed..
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    1. Size of enclosure
    - 5 gallon tank

    2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
    - only him


    3. Humidity
    -around 80-85%

    4. Temperature
    -around 80F

    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
    -dechlorinated

    6. Materials used for substrate
    -eco earth

    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
    -soaking dish, no plants etc

    8. Main food source
    - worms, sometimes gut loaded crickets

    9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
    - every other feeding (he used to eat ca twice a week)

    10. Lighting
    - daylight (indirect)

    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    - nothing now in summer

    12. When is the last time he/she ate
    - over a month ago, ca 5 weeks

    13. Have you found poop lately
    - no

    14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
    - see previous post

    15. How old is the frog
    - a little over a year

    16. How long have you owned him/her
    - about a year

    17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    - captive bred

    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
    - mainly earthworms, sometimes gut loaded crickets, had a pinky 3 times in the year Ive had him

    19. How often the frog is handled
    - not

    20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    -low

    21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
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    daily water changes

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    I can tell already that he is much to small for his age. Stunted for some reason. If he was getting plenty of calcium and the climate was kept appropriately then he should have been at least 3.5" to 3.75" if actually male and anywhere from 4.25" to 5" if female.

    Something is wrong with the setup and from your answers I'm not sure what it may be. How cool does it get there at night and do you have the AC blasting?


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    No, I dont have AC and Im pretty well insulated, so it doesnt cool off much during the night, certainly not under 75F. I keep the windows closed during the day so it doesnt get too hot. It does get a lot more humid sometimes after a thunderstorm, but I didnt think that was a problem?

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    Default Re: Darwin just laying with eyes closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Madelon View Post
    No, I dont have AC and Im pretty well insulated, so it doesnt cool off much during the night, certainly not under 75F. I keep the windows closed during the day so it doesnt get too hot. It does get a lot more humid sometimes after a thunderstorm, but I didnt think that was a problem?
    Any strange behavior? Did the frog try and aestivate when it was younger?


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