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    Lynn and Don,

    So, I have been feeding mine less, but two times a day. One good tap of the container tosses in about 50+ if I had to estimate. I have two nearly full grown cobalts. They have nice round bellies but do not look fat. They poop about two poops each daily, sometimes three. They look great. Is my feeding schedule okay?
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    Lynn and Don,

    So, I have been feeding mine less, but two times a day. One good tap of the container tosses in about 50+ if I had to estimate. I have two nearly full grown cobalts. They have nice round bellies but do not look fat. They poop about two poops each daily, sometimes three. They look great. Is my feeding schedule okay?
    Hi Heath,
    I think that plenty.They are still in quarantine...right ?
    Is there anything left over the next day?
    Supplement/dusting schedule ?
    Lynn
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    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
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    I agree with your initial (very well done) feeding synopsis Lynn. Honestly, I have no idea how many flies I feed my frogs, I sort of just dump a bunch in. For new frogs, smaller frogs, or frogs that are easily stressed I feed them more frequently but fewer flies over all (maybe 20 or 30 each?). However, for my longer term captives I feed them every few days (read that as, I feed them when I remember and my cultures are full) pretty heavily, supplementing almost every time. Generally all the flies will be gone in 36 hours or so, maybe 48 hours if I fed really heavily.

    That all being said, I do worry about stress from too many feeders hanging around as well. A couple years ago, when I just started with Darts, I had 2 Phyllobates terribilis die. I'm fairly certain they were sick with some nasty little pathogen, but the first one died shortly after feeding, so i've wondered if the stress of too many feeders accelerated his death. I doubt it, but it is certainly a possibility. Since then I have been more careful about feeding too excessively.

    So, that probably wasn't very helpful in regards to specifics. As I look back on my response it occurs to me that it sounds a lot like a recipe that calls for "a pinch of this and a dash of that".

    ~Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylototriton View Post
    I agree with your initial (very well done) feeding synopsis Lynn. Honestly, I have no idea how many flies I feed my frogs, I sort of just dump a bunch in. For new frogs, smaller frogs, or frogs that are easily stressed I feed them more frequently but fewer flies over all (maybe 20 or 30 each?). However, for my longer term captives I feed them every few days (read that as, I feed them when I remember and my cultures are full) pretty heavily, supplementing almost every time. Generally all the flies will be gone in 36 hours or so, maybe 48 hours if I fed really heavily.

    That all being said, I do worry about stress from too many feeders hanging around as well. A couple years ago, when I just started with Darts, I had 2 Phyllobates terribilis die. I'm fairly certain they were sick with some nasty little pathogen, but the first one died shortly after feeding, so i've wondered if the stress of too many feeders accelerated his death. I doubt it, but it is certainly a possibility. Since then I have been more careful about feeding too excessively.

    So, that probably wasn't very helpful in regards to specifics. As I look back on my response it occurs to me that it sounds a lot like a recipe that calls for "a pinch of this and a dash of that".

    ~Alex
    Hi Alex,
    Since all my darts have been in their permanent quarters (one week today) ; I notice the Leucs really don't care if their FFs are near them. But, they have much more space now.
    I don't witness the imitators eating very often?
    But the auratus , are still most definitely, bothered by too many FF buzzing around them. They have been the most shy as well.
    Actually, they all acted in a similar manner w. regard to this ( now that I think about it ) in quarantine.

    "So, that probably wasn't very helpful in regards to specifics" either

    Fun to share though !
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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