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    thanks, he is a very good-looking young man. i actually cleaned out the poop right after i posted that pic lol. i did a double take because it was so big. it's "Organic Choice potting mix" by Miracle Gro. It's just composted sphagnum, bark and Pasteurized poultry litter (apparently I was wrong and there is a fertilizer). Poultry litter is just straw or wood shavings mixed with poop. It sounds gross, but I've kept animals in it many times before and they do well. It replicates a forest floor well. I don't think he'll get impacted from ingesting a little dirt, but I could be wrong. I've used eco earth in the past too, so i have no prob switching if it's recommended.
    Change that substrate immediately!!!!

    If you leave your frog on that it will become sick and possibly die. Use Eco Earth Coconut Fiber(not husk). I also see some debris that you frog could accidentally ingest and become impacted(severe constipation) and die.

    Frogs absorb moisture through their skin and if any traces of fertilizer are within the soil it will cause your frog to Tox Out. Organic soil can be used as long as their are no chemical fertilizers, but I NEVER trust Miracle Grow.


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    Change that substrate immediately!!!!

    If you leave your frog on that it will become sick and possibly die. Use Eco Earth Coconut Fiber(not husk). I also see some debris that you frog could accidentally ingest and become impacted(severe constipation) and die.

    Frogs absorb moisture through their skin and if any traces of fertilizer are within the soil it will cause your frog to Tox Out. Organic soil can be used as long as their are no chemical fertilizers, but I NEVER trust Miracle Grow.
    uh oh, it'll be changed ASAP. despite all appearances, i actually keep tree frogs and geckos, so i'm very familiar with amphibians....just not terrestrial, sedentary ones, so i appreciate all the help. i do keep my tree frogs on paper towel though when they're as young as this pacman is, so i guess that was just a bonehead move on my part.
    also, turns out that the keeper i just bought came with a divider, which is nice, so i can just adjust the size as he grows.
    quick question about feeding earthworms: the site's care sheet says that they're almost a complete source of nutrition for frogs. i assume that they lack sufficient Ca2+ levels. should i dust them? i plan to feed crickets too, and always dust them, but i'm curious about the worms.

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    uh oh, it'll be changed ASAP. despite all appearances, i actually keep tree frogs and geckos, so i'm very familiar with amphibians....just not terrestrial, sedentary ones, so i appreciate all the help. i do keep my tree frogs on paper towel though when they're as young as this pacman is, so i guess that was just a bonehead move on my part.
    also, turns out that the keeper i just bought came with a divider, which is nice, so i can just adjust the size as he grows.
    quick question about feeding earthworms: the site's care sheet says that they're almost a complete source of nutrition for frogs. i assume that they lack sufficient Ca2+ levels. should i dust them? i plan to feed crickets too, and always dust them, but i'm curious about the worms.
    Yes they are an excellent source of nutrition for frogs. You should still dust them every other feeding though because they still need extra calcium. Be sure to use a multivitamin once a week like Herptivite.


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    i just read your post on dusting worms in another thread, too. i like the idea of keeping him/her in soil more than the eco earth and had planned to try some pothos clippings; this won't be a problem as long as i find one without fertilizer?

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    i just read your post on dusting worms in another thread, too. i like the idea of keeping him/her in soil more than the eco earth and had planned to try some pothos clippings; this won't be a problem as long as i find one without fertilizer?
    Pathos will grow very well in Coconut Fiber.


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    Pothos, as its called, will grow in sphagnum moss as it turns out so using eco earth is fine. I would have once suggested using an organic topsoil product as its cheap, but as it turns out, it can harbor nematodes.
    I hope you realize you are going to have to change the soil every two weeks or so to prevent bacteria build up, but eco earth makes it easy to uproot the plant and clean the roots off.

    Horned Frogs eat probably 90% vertebrate prey in the wild, so they need alot of calcium in their diet. Now that doesnt mean to over do it with the dusting, but I would suggest whole fish (not goldfish or other feeder fish that come from a fish hatchery) and the occasional mouse (for a full grown frog). There is also a great dry powder product called samurai pacman food which is fish meal based, and it also has lots of vitamins and is "nutritionally complete" though i would offer other stuff too.
    Feeding just crickets, or just nightcrawlers, even with a supplement will still probably lead to a deficiency so a variety is always better. The nice thing about pacman frogs is they respond well to tong feeding, so foods like can-o-cricket and pacman food are convenient and nutritious choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    Pothos, as its called, will grow in sphagnum moss as it turns out so using eco earth is fine. I would have once suggested using an organic topsoil product as its cheap, but as it turns out, it can harbor nematodes.
    I hope you realize you are going to have to change the soil every two weeks or so to prevent bacteria build up, but eco earth makes it easy to uproot the plant and clean the roots off.

    Horned Frogs eat probably 90% vertebrate prey in the wild, so they need alot of calcium in their diet. Now that doesnt mean to over do it with the dusting, but I would suggest whole fish (not goldfish or other feeder fish that come from a fish hatchery) and the occasional mouse (for a full grown frog). There is also a great dry powder product called samurai pacman food which is fish meal based, and it also has lots of vitamins and is "nutritionally complete" though i would offer other stuff too.
    Feeding just crickets, or just nightcrawlers, even with a supplement will still probably lead to a deficiency so a variety is always better. The nice thing about pacman frogs is they respond well to tong feeding, so foods like can-o-cricket and pacman food are convenient and nutritious choices.
    thank you for that info. i was definitely planning to provide mainly worms and crickets. what benefit do the canned crickets have over live ones? the pacman food looks cool.

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