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    Hello, and thanks for moving this thread, I just made the account today! :P
    1- Whites Tree Frog
    (I do not have images right now, although he has a filter in his tank that's like a mini "Waterfall" if you will, that's made of fake rocks.. but that only circulates the water a little it's not like it's a huge current, and he also has a land spot that has moss on it.)
    4-W 20", D 10", H 17"
    5-He's the only creature in the tank
    6-No previous tank mate
    7-No new tank mate
    8-I'm not sure, but he does have a light on the top of the tank, with a screen on top for ventilation.
    9-I'm not sure of temperature either
    10-He has a light, I'm not sure if it is supposed to heat, or just provide light
    11-The light is as long as the tank (about 20") and is turned on during the day, but left off at night
    12-We change the water when it starts to look cloudy and we fully drain it, put in new water, drain it again, and repeat till it's clean
    13-We use aged tap water (We put it in a container for a few days, that's what his owner used to do)
    14-He has moss in his tank, but that's just so he has a place to get out of the water
    15-About 1/3 of the tank on one side is a moss platform, on other side of tank there's a filter that pumps the water up and lets it run down some fake rocks, and then between the two there's some space with just water. There are some fabric plants in the two corners where the moss platform is.
    16-I just fed him before I replied to this post (So around 5:15ish today)
    17-I found poo this morning
    18-He gets fed every Tuesday and Saturday
    19-He gets fed Superworms (He usually eats 2-3, but today only ate 1 )
    20-He doesn't get fed anything else
    21-Superworms
    22-He's fed in a separate tub, or else he doesn't eat the worms and they muck up the water
    23-No vitamins, at least while we've had him
    24-No calcium while he's been with us
    25-Yes
    27-I'm not sure, if his previous owner was giving it, for about 1-1/2 to 2 months
    28-A friend of a friend (Sadly she passed from a rare form of cancer, which is why we have Pogo)
    29-I believe captive bread
    30-No gloves are used, we handle him when he is eating, and sometimes we'll bring him out to give him a bath (help him get off shedding skin he missed)
    31-It's in my brother's room, we usually go in and check on him a few times a day (Since he's been getting stuck lately) and my brother is constantly in and out of his room
    32-Not that I know of
    33- We have not treated him with anything

    Thanks for helping guys!!! Is there a specific brand of calcium treatment that anyone recommends/likes/uses???

    ~Emily

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    I googled Superworms and apparently they have varying levels of calcium. As far as supplements I use Repashy Plus calcium which has other vitamins too, but I think any CalD3 supplement could work. (Experienced people, feel free to contradict me.) The supplement's not too hard to find, I found a jar of Fluker's Calcium plus D3 at my local walmart.

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    Hi Emily and welcome see in blue below, thank you for answering the questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrogsFascinated View Post
    Hello, and thanks for moving this thread, I just made the account today! :P
    1- Whites Tree Frog
    (I do not have images right now, although he has a filter in his tank that's like a mini "Waterfall" if you will, that's made of fake rocks.. but that only circulates the water a little it's not like it's a huge current, and he also has a land spot that has moss on it.)
    4-W 20", D 10", H 17"
    too small. How big is a frog?

    5-He's the only creature in the tank
    6-No previous tank mate
    7-No new tank mate
    8-I'm not sure, but he does have a light on the top of the tank, with a screen on top for ventilation.
    9-I'm not sure of temperature either
    10-He has a light, I'm not sure if it is supposed to heat, or just provide light
    11-The light is as long as the tank (about 20") and is turned on during the day, but left off at night
    12-We change the water when it starts to look cloudy and we fully drain it, put in new water, drain it again, and repeat till it's clean
    13-We use aged tap water (We put it in a container for a few days, that's what his owner used to do)
    14-He has moss in his tank, but that's just so he has a place to get out of the water
    15-About 1/3 of the tank on one side is a moss platform, on other side of tank there's a filter that pumps the water up and lets it run down some fake rocks, and then between the two there's some space with just water. There are some fabric plants in the two corners where the moss platform is.
    16-I just fed him before I replied to this post (So around 5:15ish today)
    17-I found poo this morning
    18-He gets fed every Tuesday and Saturday
    19-He gets fed Superworms (He usually eats 2-3, but today only ate 1 )
    20-He doesn't get fed anything else
    21-Superworms
    22-He's fed in a separate tub, or else he doesn't eat the worms and they muck up the water
    23-No vitamins, at least while we've had him
    24-No calcium while he's been with us
    25-Yes
    27-I'm not sure, if his previous owner was giving it, for about 1-1/2 to 2 months
    28-A friend of a friend (Sadly she passed from a rare form of cancer, which is why we have Pogo)
    29-I believe captive bread
    30-No gloves are used, we handle him when he is eating, and sometimes we'll bring him out to give him a bath (help him get off shedding skin he missed)
    31-It's in my brother's room, we usually go in and check on him a few times a day (Since he's been getting stuck lately) and my brother is constantly in and out of his room
    32-Not that I know of
    33- We have not treated him with anything

    Thanks for helping guys!!! Is there a specific brand of calcium treatment that anyone recommends/likes/uses???

    ~Emily
    sorry.... I started, but.... Emily, you need to go shopping and change almost everything.... Poor froggy....

    Please read this Frog Forum - White's Tree Frog Care - Litoria caerulea

    get proper humidity and temperature gauges. - Walmart, etc, any combo they sell for home, I think it's about 6-8$.

    food - no superworms! They are fattening and very hard to digest = impaction and overweight unhealthy frog.

    Water - you need to get watet conditioner, I prefer Prime, but any water conditioner they sell for fish tanks or reptiles will do.

    Take all moss out too.
    You need to get ca/d3 and multivitamin powders.

    the things you needs to do asap. Get unflavoured pedyalite, do a bath for a frog. Warm solution (80ishF), level no higher then frogs chin, 20 min. Solution you need 1 part of water, 5 parts of pedyalite. do baths every day for 4-5 days, same concentration. Please update how it goes, depending on a situation the concentration might be different.

    get repti aid by fluckers ( i think). Use it daily, you can just dust food with it every feeding for at least 2 weeks.

    for absolutely everything use only conditioned water.

    When you post pic of your set up I have a very strong feeling you will need to change things here too.

    if you have to handle Pogo - wash your hands well, then put on disposable no powdered gloves or rinse your hands in conditioned water.
    Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!

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    Hello and welcome to FF! I'm sorry your frog is sick; guess the chlorine in water and lack of CA/D3 finally got to it. Please follow Lija's advice as soon as possible. This is the product she recommended: Repta Boost Insectivore/Carnivore.

    You need to dechlorinate water because today's chloramines are stable in water and will not gas off like chlorine of the past.

    For vitamins you can get separate products (CA/D3 and vitamins) from either Repashy (what I use) or RepCal. Here are some sample schedules to get you started: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html. Repashy also has an all in one product called Calcium Plus made for daily use. If you can't find Pedialyte; any unflavored plain baby electrolyte solution will do. Good luck!
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    I didn't know modern chlorine was stable in water. Thanks!

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