Bloated?

[mikesfrogs]

Erik where are you getting the crickets from? I had a problem with the crickets here in southern california. They killed about 80 pacman frogs. Its still being tested but the crickets from a supplier ate something that is killing only pacman frogs. I wouldnt feed crickets right now to be honest. Go with earthworms

[eRock79]

Erik where are you getting the crickets from? I had a problem with the crickets here in southern california. They killed about 80 pacman frogs. Its still being tested but the crickets from a supplier ate something that is killing only pacman frogs. I wouldnt feed crickets right now to be honest. Go with earthworms

I got my crickets at the NARBC in Anaheim and I haven't fed him any more since Monday. I have Nightcrawlers in the fridge right now, are those acceptable? Should I try to feed him tonight? I'm worried that if he does have a condition, I may make it worse by feeding him. Man, I worry a lot.

oh, and I would add to what Mike said about the crickets by feeding either earth worms or roaches instead. Crickets are the most popular feeder, followed closely by meal worms, both of which are not ideal for your animals. Roaches and earthworms are much high in nutrients. You can culture your own roaches at home and never pay for feeders again (except for occassional treats to mix the diet up a bit).

As for roaches, are dubias the ones you speak of? I live in a small apartment, so I don't know if culturing them is in the cards.

[KingCam]

As for roaches, are dubias the ones you speak of? I live in a small apartment, so I don't know if culturing them is in the cards.

Any roaches. Dubia are a good choice. Giant cave roaches, deathheads, blaberus hybrids, discoids, and many other larger species would also make good food items for a frog as big as a pacman.

As far as space is concerned, they only take up as much room as a plastic storage tote.

[lumpbump]

I got my crickets at the NARBC in Anaheim and I haven't fed him any more since Monday. I have Nightcrawlers in the fridge right now, are those acceptable? Should I try to feed him tonight? I'm worried that if he does have a condition, I may make it worse by feeding him. Man, I worry a lot.



As for roaches, are dubias the ones you speak of? I live in a small apartment, so I don't know if culturing them is in the cards.

You can culture dubia in a plastic tub. My culture is in a, hmm maybe 10 gallon plastic sterilite tub. I have it in a small walk in closet where i keep my a small freezer where i store frozen rodents. Works real well since the ambient temp in the walk in stays in the upper 80s. I too keep my pac in my snake room. Basically the same ambience as you listed earlier. My frog buddy is doing real good with that set up. Initially I had my enclosure too dry and he nearly went into frog hybernation. I added some water and hes doing real good. Don't forget your new frog is going to need his food dusted with calcium powder and vit d3 and some multi vitimins. Its important to provided ample calcium to help their bones grow. Theres a good pac man care guide somewhere on this site. Im not gonna give you grief as other may cause you obviously are trying to do whats right. Everyone makes mistakes and some people are just more pasionate than the next. You can get some water declorinator at petsmart or petco. I think mine actually has some calcium in it. Just 2 drops in each 8 ounces of water. Gotta use it if your putting tap water into the eco earth or you can use bottled spring water. Dont use distilled water cause it will suck the salts out of your frog. Keep looking for answers and try not to take to heart peoples responses that may come off as aggressive sounding.

[eRock79]

You can culture dubia in a plastic tub. My culture is in a, hmm maybe 10 gallon plastic sterilite tub. I have it in a small walk in closet where i keep my a small freezer where i store frozen rodents. Works real well since the ambient temp in the walk in stays in the upper 80s. I too keep my pac in my snake room. Basically the same ambience as you listed earlier. My frog buddy is doing real good with that set up. Initially I had my enclosure too dry and he nearly went into frog hybernation. I added some water and hes doing real good. Don't forget your new frog is going to need his food dusted with calcium powder and vit d3 and some multi vitimins. Its important to provided ample calcium to help their bones grow. Theres a good pac man care guide somewhere on this site. Im not gonna give you grief as other may cause you obviously are trying to do whats right. Everyone makes mistakes and some people are just more pasionate than the next. You can get some water declorinator at petsmart or petco. I think mine actually has some calcium in it. Just 2 drops in each 8 ounces of water. Gotta use it if your putting tap water into the eco earth or you can use bottled spring water. Dont use distilled water cause it will suck the salts out of your frog. Keep looking for answers and try not to take to heart peoples responses that may come off as aggressive sounding.

Thank you very much bud! If only I had a walk-in closet. haha. I have the calcium dust and I picked up the dechlorinater from Walmart for $3, so I made a gallon of that plus some to keep in the room for the squirt bottle and to do water changes with. I blossomed the Eco Earth with only distilled water this time around and didn't let it get soggy, so that I can mist him and give him the option to choose wet or dry (per the care sheet you speak of). I won't take anything to heart as I'm just learning how to care for him properly and I know that many people have differences in opinions and what not. Thank you for the words of encouragement.

[GrifTheGreat]

Thank you very much bud! If only I had a walk-in closet. haha. I have the calcium dust and I picked up the dechlorinater from Walmart for $3, so I made a gallon of that plus some to keep in the room for the squirt bottle and to do water changes with. I blossomed the Eco Earth with only distilled water this time around and didn't let it get soggy, so that I can mist him and give him the option to choose wet or dry (per the care sheet you speak of). I won't take anything to heart as I'm just learning how to care for him properly and I know that many people have differences in opinions and what not. Thank you for the words of encouragement.

You cannot use distilled water for the substrate. IT MUST BE SATURATED BY DE-CHLORINATED WATER OR PURE SPRING WATER. Distilled water has no mineral or salt content and will leach them from the frog which will make it sick. I told you to use DE-CHLORINATED WATER. Distilled is only for misting and fog machines.

If you did indeed use distilled water to expand and moisten the substrate you will have to change it again and use DE-CHLORINATED WATER.

19 grams is good for a froglet. How large is your frog SVL(Snout to Vent Length)?

[eRock79]

You cannot use distilled water for the substrate. IT MUST BE SATURATED BY DE-CHLORINATED WATER OR PURE SPRING WATER. Distilled water has no mineral or salt content and will leach them from the frog which will make it sick. I told you to use DE-CHLORINATED WATER. Distilled is only for misting and fog machines.

If you did indeed use distilled water to expand and moisten the substrate you will have to change it again and use DE-CHLORINATED WATER.

19 grams is good for a froglet. How large is your frog SVL(Snout to Vent Length)?

Haha, my apologies Grif. I did NOT use distilled as I had said. I failed to proof-read my post prior to hitting Post Quick Reply. I used de-chlorinated water from my gallon jug that I had made up. Why I typed distilled, I'll never know. Sometimes it happens when I multitask. I can't come up with a better reason than that. Oh well. In either case, his substrate, water dish, and misting bottle are all now de-chlorinated.

I didn't take a measurement of SVL while he was out as I just wanted to let him soak (which he did while on the scale). I really hate to stress out my animals continuously like I have this little guy. Do they get puffy sides when they have to have a bowl movement? One side looks considerably smaller now. How often should I soak him in luke-warm de-chlorinated water? <-- Got it right that time.

PS: When should I resume feeding him?

[GrifTheGreat]

Haha, my apologies Grif. I did NOT use distilled as I had said. I failed to proof-read my post prior to hitting Post Quick Reply. I used de-chlorinated water from my gallon jug that I had made up. Why I typed distilled, I'll never know. Sometimes it happens when I multitask. I can't come up with a better reason than that. Oh well. In either case, his substrate, water dish, and misting bottle are all now de-chlorinated.

I didn't take a measurement of SVL while he was out as I just wanted to let him soak (which he did while on the scale). I really hate to stress out my animals continuously like I have this little guy. Do they get puffy sides when they have to have a bowl movement? One side looks considerably smaller now. How often should I soak him in luke-warm de-chlorinated water? <-- Got it right that time.

PS: When should I resume feeding him?

All good then. The right side will usually feel firm and stick out a little more when they are nearing a bowel movement. They inflate themselves to appear more threatening say if they feel annoyed by being handled or dug up. Most of the time its and empty threat, but there are some that warn you and follow up with a good bite. Babies and younger juvenile's bite isn't anything to worry about, BUT large juveniles and adults are a different story. They can drawl blood and the bite can be quite painful so watch your fingers.

keep me posted on the bloated appearance because Toxing Out Syndrome starts off with some bloating and lethargy. I'm sure your frog is fine, but just incase keep an eye on him. You should be able to start feeding him again.