Red eye acting weird(sick?)

[Griffin]

He did not eat the cricket i put in there,it might be because he is in a new environment.i do use a computer fan myself but not at night because humidity gets to low,but i can just keep it over one hole to keep some circulation in there at night.also you said if i can put the quarantine cage in the viv it self but it is to big for the retf viv but i can squeeze it in my much larger 60gal gtf viv,would this be ok?

thanks for your help so much,will keep u guys posted or if he doesn't eat eventually i will come back for some help on what to do

[flybyferns]

He did not eat the cricket i put in there,it might be because he is in a new environment.i do use a computer fan myself but not at night because humidity gets to low,but i can just keep it over one hole to keep some circulation in there at night.also you said if i can put the quarantine cage in the viv it self but it is to big for the retf viv but i can squeeze it in my much larger 60gal gtf viv,would this be ok?

thanks for your help so much,will keep u guys posted or if he doesn't eat eventually i will come back for some help on what to do

Hi griffin,
I do not know, because I do not have Am Green Tree frogs.
I do not know if temp and humidity needs are the same.
Let's hope others will chime in !
Lynn

[flybyferns]

Griffin,
I sent out smoke signals !!!

[GrifTheGreat]

I'm. Not entirely sure what is causing this problem with your frog. Disoriented and having trouble with mobility could be MBD(Metabolic Bone Disease) due to a lack in calcium, but since you dust their food with calcium that contains D3 I doubt it is MBD.

Calcium is also an electrolyte with 90% humidity they should not be dehydrated, but how often do you change their water source? It should be changed everytime they enter it and every 2 days if not used to prevent bacteria and protozoans from infecting the water source and thus your frogs.

What kinds of live plants are in your Viv? Some are toxic and can poison your frogs if they come in contact with their saps and fluis if broken or damaged?

I would also send a Private message to Don Lisk and ask for his assistance.

In the mean time prepare a warm soak of UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE. Of a 10 to 1 ratio. So for every 10oz of water add 1oz of Pedialyte. It must be UNFLAVORED Pedialyte. No deeper than half his height. Soak him for 15 to 20 minutes.

Keep us posted.

[GrifTheGreat]

This could also be a neurolgical problem due to a lack of a vitamin. Do you dust with a multivitamin?

[Griffin]

i will go buy some UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE when i get home from work and soak him.also i dont dust with multivitamin but i do feed my crickets a variety of mostly vegies and sometimes fruit.and also do change the water dish every day or two

[Griffin]

i have potho,creeping jenny,bromeliad,money tree and and snake plant

[Griffin]

ok i tried to soak him in the 1 to 10 Pedialyte water but he keeps looking down and i was afraid he was going to drown and also he was spazing out and jumping and going on his back and he was trying to flip back over but couldn't and did that a few times,so that did go so well.and also i saw that one of his pupil is more dialated than the other pupil on the other eye,he has had this since hes been acting weird or maybe even before,also does his size seem small to you guys for a 8 month old Red-Eyed Leaf Frog?i always thought that he was male because my other Red-Eyed Leaf Frog is bigger and think that one is female.and here is a pic of him,will post more pics if u guys need

[flybyferns]

Hi Griffin,
Although I have red eye tree frogs, I am not an expert.
However, here are my thoughts.
He is thin, and looks weak. I am glad that you were able to do the soak.
PM Grif and ask how often you can do that?
It is stressful for them to be handled , though!

If this were my frog, this is what I would do for now :
-I would keep him in a hospital tank to monitor things closely. ( 5-10 gallon glass tank $ 10 )
-get what ever is needed, ( lights heat etc to keep this separate tank)
-paper towels substrate.
-add a pothos vine or a plant he can climb on and hide in
- cover the back and sides of the tank with dark paper.
-keep him in as quiet a spot as possible
-dampened the towel w/ declorinated water ( change it 3 times /week ONLY while he is sleeping)
-include a VERY shallow / soaking dish w/ the same water that the paper towel is dampened with ( change it daily ONLY while he is sleeping)
-*****Keep the temp and humidity w/in the parameters recommended ******
-keep a very consistent day/night light cycle
-dust crickets ( small ONLY- make dinner an easy catch ) with vit D and calicium **** DAILY****
-put several crickets in - every night ( count them !!!)
-remove ALL uneaten crickets in the morning ( after he goes back to sleep ) put them back in the cricket bin to feed
-Light - I would hang 2.0 UVB bulb near-by during the day ( maybe 6 hours /daily)

You are sooo consciences !! Hang in there!
Lynn

[Griffin]

Did a good soaking today.tonight is the night i have to force feed :|(nervous)

and here is a couple pics to show his pupils,different dialations.sorry for the blurriness

[InfinitysDaughter]

Just wanted to ask. How long ago did you get your calcium dust and from what store did you get it? Not too long ago I got a small container of fluckers +D3 from my petsmart and my gray acted similar to what you have been saying. It turned out that the shipment of fluckers that my store got had been tampered with. Helen was fairly ok within a few days but she is also a different species as well as wild caught so possibly not as susceptible to the containment as a red eyes or your bottle may have had a more concentrated amount of the containment (still dont know what it was).

Personally, if your still dusting I would either stop all together or get a different container (preferably a different brand). If your still dusting from the same container it could account for the prolonged and acute illness.

Fluckers is a great brand but the recent batch has been contaminated. I would stop using it for the time being and tell the store where you got it about the issue. They may want to take the batch off the shelves just in case (like my petsmart did).


I'll admit I have no experience with red eyes but this just sounds too much like what my Helly went threw to be a coincidence.

[BlueisallIneed]

At this point you really need to take him to a vet. If he were mine I would have tried a vet alone time ago Hun. He looks really bad

[flybyferns]

Did a good soaking today.tonight is the night i have to force feed :|(nervous)

and here is a couple pics to show his pupils,different dialations.sorry for the blurriness

Griffin,
He looks so weak.
He needs a herp. vet.
I'm sorry !

[Griffin]

about how much would it coast to see a vet?

i tired force feeding him tonight and he kept opening his mouth and pushing out the cricket,tried it 3 times

[flybyferns]

about how much would it coast to see a vet?

i tired force feeding him tonight and he kept opening his mouth and pushing out the cricket,tried it 3 times

Hi Griffin
I'm so sorry you're having such a tuf time.
I would say the visit would be about $40-50, maybe less.
I wish you had a choice
A herp vet will know what to do !!!!!
Please let us know how you make out.

Ask the vet for a 3cc syringe ( w/out a needle). The little end of a syringe ( where the needle would twist on and off )is the perfect size to fit into his mouth, and that size syringe is not so small in diameter that you risk putting it in too far. You can then, pull the legs off the crickets, squish the cricket, mix w/ the vits and calcium and push a tiny bit it into his mouth with the end of the syringe? See what the vet thinks about this idea. In fact , I know it works well, I have done it. You just have to make sure the frog is alert enough to swallow ( so he does not choke on the food)

Or, at the very lest, pull the cricket's legs off first.
The cricket will be easier to swallow w/out the legs.
Maybe w/out the legs, he will not spit it out.
Lynn