Paper towel substrate

[Greenhorn]

Love the water, moss, and gravel idea. Do they do okay feeding in a separate enclosure? do you use sphagnum? The green sphagnum moss is really attractive looking.

[dsmalex97]

Love the water, moss, and gravel idea. Do they do okay feeding in a separate enclosure? do you use sphagnum? The green sphagnum moss is really attractive looking.

My frog loves it so far. I just don't like the idea of feeding on it. That's really the only drawback besides water maintenance. My frog is very outgoing and doesn't seem to mind as long as I'm really gentle. I try to have everything ready so I just got to plop him in the tub, and feed him. I do this everyday mind you and all has been well. I like to rinse my hands with some hot water before I handle him to be on the safe side. It's only for a second I'm not holding him for any kind of long period. Here's a video of it in action. And yes I do use sphagnum :] Pacman/Pyxie Water Setup - YouTube

I think feeding in a separate bin depends on the animal. My guy has no issues with it, but yours might who knows. Also, I don't recommend the whisper filter that I'm using currently. There is actually a thread called "switching to water" up right now in the african bullfrog forum about filters, and water setups. Might be of some help to you.

[Sublime]

@Green Oh yeah, Florida shouldn't be a humidity problem during most parts of the year if not at all. When I first joined the forum I was strong headed about what was right and what was wrong, but I've lightened up a bit and know that people are entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. However; to me, I do consider paper towels to be a temporary substrate or bedding for these guys. Wish we had as much humidity as you guys down here in California even though it feels hotter haha. You're correct about them not eating is more than likely an indicator of stress.

@dsm Yeah, you know I actually do believe that whatever people find that works best for them there's no arguing there. I just like to implement some of the natural bedding they would have provided in the wild. The bedding I use is a 50/50 mixture of coconut fiber and additive free top soil to give it more depth and fight bacteria/fungal growth. I like to stay away from moss and other bedding that's an impaction risk because I just feel more comfortable sleeping at night, you know what I mean? They do love to soak and are great swimmers so I can see why a couple of people including you have found all water setups working best including maintenance. Also I saw how you feed your pacman on the moss by moving it, the way you do it is completely safe and is good that you practice that.

It is kind of funny to debate which setup is actually the 'best' for african bullfrogs since some people swear by coconut fiber and other swear by all water setups. IMO, the best ideal setup is a half land-half water if you can pull it off without the dirt clogging the filter with a divider or ramp. Hopefully soon once I buy my boy a 40 gal breeder I'll be able to do this.

Also I feed my pixie in a seperate Sterilite bin; it has worked out great for me. I get consistent-timed feedings and don't have to worry about leftover crickets or decaying dead invertebrates in his tank. Also, I don't worry about him eating too much dirt since they're sloppy eaters and he's just eating in a plastic tote.