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    Prior to buying that frog, if he or she wasn't fed very often and improper husbandry - It will stop them from growing to their potential caused my malnutrition, known as stunted growth. All frogs grow at different rates so you can't really compare one to another. One could surpass another one in a couple of months so it's all just a waiting game.

    Calcium deficiency can cause them to appear weak from early stages of MBD. Lack of calcium and vitamin d3 to metabolize will result in that... Supplementing with calcium w/ d3 is a must and a multivitamin once a week. Try to get him or her on a healthier diet - the earthworms you can try rubbing up against her mouth with reptile forceps (tongs) and see if he or she takes it from there. Stay away from feeding her mealworms or waxworms for awhile; good that you realized to stop feeding him or her waxworms though.

    If you need a few different brands of supplements and vitamins to buy. Let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizardMama View Post
    Could the two Heat Mats be making the frog too hot and not want to eat? Pacman Frogs need to have it at the mid 80's, if it gets above 84/86 they go off of their food.
    I measure the temperature in her tank, it doesn't ever go above 80. I've upped the thermostats on both sides to 85, so I'll see if making it hotter helps. It's gone over 80 at the moment, I'll monitor it for a little bit longer, I may turn Princes (huuuuge frog, tries to eat everything, mainly me) and leave King(other little frog I did have issues with, found out it was too humid, bad choice of enclosure, changed it and now he is fine, eats like a trooper). Otherwise, like you say, she may end up getting too hot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sublime View Post
    Prior to buying that frog, if he or she wasn't fed very often and improper husbandry - It will stop them from growing to their potential caused my malnutrition, known as stunted growth. All frogs grow at different rates so you can't really compare one to another. One could surpass another one in a couple of months so it's all just a waiting game.

    Calcium deficiency can cause them to appear weak from early stages of MBD. Lack of calcium and vitamin d3 to metabolize will result in that... Supplementing with calcium w/ d3 is a must and a multivitamin once a week. Try to get him or her on a healthier diet - the earthworms you can try rubbing up against her mouth with reptile forceps (tongs) and see if he or she takes it from there. Stay away from feeding her mealworms or waxworms for awhile; good that you realized to stop feeding him or her waxworms though.

    If you need a few different brands of supplements and vitamins to buy. Let us know.
    Ah really, interesting stuff. I did wonder about the care before hand, they did have her in bits of moss and very dry, on wood chips, wasn't a very good set up. I went and checked on her every day and it seemed like they didn't feed her much. I'm not sure what her care was like before I got her, probably should have asked, but I mainly wanted to get her out of the unpleasant set up, plus I didn't know at the time it could affect her growth... Something for me to think of in future!

    So would dusting her food a bit more help? I normally do a dust of calcium one day, D3 the next and then multivitamin, not always in that order. The earth worms I tried were really tiny, I have located some bigger ones, giant lob worm, are they ok to use?

    I use reptivite D3, exo terra multi vitamins and nutrobal calcium.

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    Dusting calcium w/ d3 every other feeding is fine combined with a multivitamin once a week. I've never come across a lobster worm, they should be fine. If you are looking for a more commonly available large earthworm; I suggest night crawlers (European, African, Canadian).

    Well Reptivite D3 already has everything your pacman would need. Don't use another multivitamin on top of that (i.e. exo terra multivitamin). The nutrobal calcium I've never heard of that brand, did you pick that up at a market or shop that sold supplements and vitamins?

    Dust with Reptivite D3 once a week; on a couple of night crawlers or all of the crickets you are feeding (Shake and bake method). Or if you go out again to pick up a different brand you would like I suggest: Repashy, Rep-Cal, and Flukers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sublime View Post
    Dusting calcium w/ d3 every other feeding is fine combined with a multivitamin once a week. I've never come across a lobster worm, they should be fine. If you are looking for a more commonly available large earthworm; I suggest night crawlers (European, African, Canadian).

    Well Reptivite D3 already has everything your pacman would need. Don't use another multivitamin on top of that (i.e. exo terra multivitamin). The nutrobal calcium I've never heard of that brand, did you pick that up at a market or shop that sold supplements and vitamins?

    Dust with Reptivite D3 once a week; on a couple of night crawlers or all of the crickets you are feeding (Shake and bake method). Or if you go out again to pick up a different brand you would like I suggest: Repashy, Rep-Cal, and Flukers.
    Ah right, I've googled the night crawler and I think that must be a US thing, all I found was sites from the US. I've not really seem earth worms for sale, only really small ones and the lob worms. I think fishing tackle shops sell worms, although I'm not too sure where they would get them from, any idea if they could be harmful?

    I can't remember where I got the calcuim, was a while ago, a pet shop I think. I got it for millipedes at the time!

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    The worms at fish & tackle shops you need to be careful about. One thing to look for when buying these worms is making sure they don't have any additives - injected or soaked in (Scents, dyes, flavorings, nitrogen). I get mine in a tub that just says "Bait Connection 25 count large night crawlers" in the sporting goods section of Walmart. They're sold for people who use them as catfish bait.

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    Ah right, I may try my fishing tackle shop, he is generally quite good for giving fresh bait, normally maggots are covered in colours, but he only sells white ones, so I'll ask about the worms he uses!

    The other worms I found are actually on a reptile food web site, so I'm guessing they will be fresher and not full of stuff?

    Could I also try feeding them pinkie mice? I've never fed a mouse before as it really creeps me out, but I'm willing to try anything at this point!

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    The worms coming from a reptile food website is fine. Pinkie mice can be fed sparingly once every couple of months. He or she is pretty small to start eating mice; I would hold off mice until you get him feeding on healthier diets. Fishing and tackle shops are a lot cheaper though than earthworms being sold as reptile or amphibian food on sites or at a shop. Just have to be more precautionary with the guy that is selling them at a fishing shop. Let me know how it goes.

    If he or she was in an emergency situation where he or she hadn't eaten in weeks, then I would force feed a pinkie mouse.

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