Red wigglers as a staple?

[IvoryReptiles]

@Ivory do you think it might be leaning more on the side of an isolated incident if I've been feeding him these night crawlers for over a month without signs of toxcity or puking. Or would it take awhile to process? I want to take your advice, but I just want to get your opinion on this.

I am thinking it was in isolated incident. My friend is actually my cousin and he works with the biology labs at A&M and he & his cronies did all the testing. I honestly do not speak the language of chemicals, but he broke it down for me. We always have opened the containers and looked & smelled the worms......it just made sense to do so. I may be weird, but I smell my foods before buying fruits & veggies, so it made sense to do it for my animal's foods when i can too.

The tested samples were taken from night crawlers from all 4 local sources (Walmart, Petco, Petsamrt & Academy) and the only one that came back as toxic were the ones from Walmart. All 4 store have different suppliers. The worms eat the soil and therefore are literally what they eat. They also did an analysis & necropsy on 3 of the frogs we gave them that had died. They tested some crickets & dubia roaches we were feeding at the time as well. It all came down to the Walmart worms......so as a precaution, we simply do not buy them there. They tested our substrates and hides and the water also.

The frogs started dying about 1 month into having been fed the Walmart worms.....we lost just under 30 frogs. The worms our Walmart had came from a supplier in KY.

[Sublime]

I am thinking it was in isolated incident. My friend is actually my cousin and he works with the biology labs at A&M and he & his cronies did all the testing. I honestly do not speak the language of chemicals, but he broke it down for me. We always have opened the containers and looked & smelled the worms......it just made sense to do so. I may be weird, but I smell my foods before buying fruits & veggies, so it made sense to do it for my animal's foods when i can too.

The tested samples were taken from night crawlers from all 4 local sources (Walmart, Petco, Petsamrt & Academy) and the only one that came back as toxic were the ones from Walmart. All 4 store have different suppliers. The worms eat the soil and therefore are literally what they eat. They also did an analysis & necropsy on 3 of the frogs we gave them that had died. They tested some crickets & dubia roaches we were feeding at the time as well. It all came down to the Walmart worms......so as a precaution, we simply do not buy them there. They tested our substrates and hides and the water also.

The frogs started dying about 1 month into having been fed the Walmart worms.....we lost just under 30 frogs. The worms our Walmart had came from a supplier in KY.

I need to take pre-caution now when I buy my next night crawlers. I'm not even sure if my Petco or Petsmart sells night crawlers? I know my local reptile shop does, but they charge a lot more than Walmart... I might just end up having to pay more to play it safe from now on. That's a big hit for your guys business, I can see why you don't want to test again to make sure it was just an isolated incident. You guys are lucky though that you had a related person that could do analysis to narrow down the cause; I imagine that can be very costly for someone who just wants to get some typical materials evaluated with the addition of amphibians.