Agalychnis callidryas

[UncleChester]

Today, I had the most amazing experince. I actually woke up around 08:30, by the calling of the male. That's just incredible.

Cool! Do you have a way of recording the sound? That'd be neat.

I'm thinking about breeding moths as additional feeders to the dubias. If anyone have any ideas, tips or knowledge about this, I woul greatly appriciate it!

Waxworms turn into moths fairly easily.

[BG]

Hi Martin,how is your groda.lol

[ViperJr]

[QUOTE=UncleChester;77121]Cool! Do you have a way of recording the sound? That'd be neat.[quote]
I only have my cell phone, and I doubt that will make a decent recording. I'll try though and post it here, if I manage to get something!

Waxworms turn into moths fairly easily.

Ah, great advice! I've search for moth-ideas, but didn't found much, and now I see why... Didn't occur to me that the larvae actually meta-morphed to something, silly me. I might try to setup a wax worm colony and try to feed the frogs some occasional moths. I just need to do more research about the moths as actual feeders (if there's anything harmful about them, if the could be a danger to the plants etc. etc.).

Hi Martin,how is your groda.lol

Grodorna mår bra, both of them!

[UncleChester]

I just need to do more research about the moths as actual feeders (if there's anything harmful about them, if the could be a danger to the plants etc. etc.).

I believe the moths don't actually eat at all, just the larva. In any case, the average lifespan of a moth that's been released into one of my treefrog vivs is about 2 seconds. If you happen to come across the nutritional content of the moth form, I'd love to see it though. I've only seen values for the larva.

I don't know if there's much of a difference between them, but the waxworms typically available for feeders here are of the "Greater" variety, Galleria mellonella.

[ViperJr]

I believe the moths don't actually eat at all, just the larva. In any case, the average lifespan of a moth that's been released into one of my treefrog vivs is about 2 seconds. If you happen to come across the nutritional content of the moth form, I'd love to see it though. I've only seen values for the larva.

Treefrogs sure seems to love moths! Sadly, I have not found any nutrition values about the actual moths. However, if they're used as an occasional treat, the the values shouldn't be a problem (unless they're extremly high in something). IF I find anything, I'll let you know!

I don't know if there's much of a difference between them, but the waxworms typically available for feeders here are of the "Greater" variety, Galleria mellonella.

Yes, this seems to be the case here as well. I'm getting some second thoughts about it, since they moths have a wingspan of 30–41 mm according to Wikipedia. This seems a little bit to large for my red-eyes. I'm guessing the moths are at a constant size, since they do not eat (like you said), so I can't use the "baby moths" either.
I'm guessing the Smaller wax moths are smaller, but they seem to be hard to get.

[UncleChester]

Maybe I should revise that to "the waxworms available here are typically sold as Galleria mellonella", because now I'm doubting what kind I get. Mine have a wingspan closer to 20~25mm and nothing approaching 40mm. It could be their living conditions stunt their growth or I have the Lesser version.

In any case the wings are flimsy and crunch up easily, so it's more the body size that I'd look at for feeding purposes.

[ViperJr]

UncleChester, I feel that we're derailing quite a lot from the topic. However, I would love to continue our conversation about this. PM will be sent in a few minutes.
A small update from this evening:
About 2 minutes after the lights went out, they woke up. Their day/night-cycle seems to be very good. I tried to take two pictures today, but they didn't turn out well... I'll post them anyway, but they are crappy pictures, I warn you. It seems like one of them are taking all the food, so I might have to add more dubias than they would eat, just to make sure both are getting some. As you can see in the pictures, one of them are really comfortable in being around the feeding dish. The other one are sitting above it (as you can see on the picture, you just have to look more closely on top on the picture), and it does not have any powder around it's mouth like the one I know ate do.





EDIT: And yeah, we're having a temporary feeding bowl-setup, since we had a slight problem with the original one. That's why it looks strange.