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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    Here is a link to putting in a false bottom. http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...se-bottom.html

    The PVC is to create a base for the egg-crate can sit on. I use PVC Couplings as you'll see in the link above.
    You then cover the egg-crate with a fine window screen, landscaping weed deterrent material, or substrate screen (which only comes in small sheets).
    You have many choices of materials to put on top of the screen and in my drat tanks I use Zilla Jungle Mix or some of the special substrates you'll find on some of the online frog retailer's sites.

    Your plants can go straight into the top layer of substrate or put into the background after the fertilized soil is removed from the plant and the plant is rinsed off completely so you don't introduce unwanted critters.

    If your creating a pond area then you cut away the egg-crate from that area, have the screen and some egg-crate block off around the cutout so frogs can't get under the egg-crate and then use stone, gravel or so on to make the pond bottom.

    Hope this helps.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    So you don't use any moss? I see it in your tutorial as I browsed through real quick. I'm not actually at home, and I'm ordering food online on my grandmother's computer..but thanks Don! (a lot!)

    Edit: Nevermind, I see that you did.
    Last edited by Cody; August 21st, 2011 at 04:59 PM. Reason: See Above.

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    Instructions with pictures would help like a newjack like me.
    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    Here is a link to putting in a false bottom. http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...se-bottom.html

    The PVC is to create a base for the egg-crate can sit on. I use PVC Couplings as you'll see in the link above.
    You then cover the egg-crate with a fine window screen, landscaping weed deterrent material, or substrate screen (which only comes in small sheets).
    You have many choices of materials to put on top of the screen and in my drat tanks I use Zilla Jungle Mix or some of the special substrates you'll find on some of the online frog retailer's sites.

    Your plants can go straight into the top layer of substrate or put into the background after the fertilized soil is removed from the plant and the plant is rinsed off completely so you don't introduce unwanted critters.

    If your creating a pond area then you cut away the egg-crate from that area, have the screen and some egg-crate block off around the cutout so frogs can't get under the egg-crate and then use stone, gravel or so on to make the pond bottom.

    Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    His link shows the pictures...if you'd click it... xD
    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    Instructions with pictures would help like a newjack like me.

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    Alright so for whatever reason I have to double post because it won't let me edit my last one. I was thinking of getting the Exo-Terra Monsoon RS400 Rainfall System, and I know it's like expensive for what it does but I think it's a really neat concept. But then again, I won't need it if I can rig up some kind of water feature. I've been debating what to do...and have been thinking of designing it so that the pump is in the overflow like you guys suggested...and then just have it come down where the overflow box is. What do you guys think? There's tons of possibilities, I know...but I'm not the most creative person when it comes to stuff like this. xD I'm trying my best. Also, backgrounds....what's the best? I'm thinking I'll do a foam with Great Stuff or Handi-Foam because I can make shelves and stuff and I like how it's 3D basically. Suggestions on anything, please! I need all the help I can get at this point xD... I'm returning ~$270 worth of merchandise to DFS Aquatics so that'll be money I can use for my vivarium. And then another $110 for a pump at a LFS where they sell reptile supplies.

    Edit: I also have a 24" (I believe) Exo-Terra Compact Fluorescent Double Bulb fixture from turtle tank. Can I get another one of those and just have them as lighting for my tank? (I don't have the fixture YET but I'm getting my tank back and possibly giving my turtles to someone who has a huge pond for them in her back yard.) I'd also be getting my 28H from Walmart back and could use it as a viv in the future but I'm DEFINITELY going big for my first one?
    Last edited by Cody; August 22nd, 2011 at 10:37 AM. Reason: See Above.

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    The Monsoon works nice as long as it is not one of the 1st generation ones which had leak issues inside the unit causing timer problems. If you receive a 1st gen one, Exo-Terra will replace it if you are having the timer problems.
    The Monsoon would need to be something seperate outside the tank and then your use of the overflow for a waterfall would work well. I have the Mist King system and the base model is about 199 USD but you need to set it up with a bucket hidden under the tank if going with the Mist King. The mist King is quieter, and with the ability to use a separate bucket for the water supply, you don't have to fill the supply bucket/container so often.
    The Mist King nozzles also provide a much finer mist so you would normally have the pump run a little longer with each cycle.

    As for the lighting, as long as you use some 6500K color temp bulbs or better then you should be fine with the lighting you have plus the additional you mentioned.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: Can I use my 90 gallon drilled as a vivarium for Dart Frogs?

    I didn't know if I should get another lighting fixture just because that way it would cover the entire tank basically. And is the Monsoon a "rain" or more of a mist? I think the rain concept is cool. xD But who knows...It's only $100 or something like that. My humidity would DEFINITELY be okay if I had both the waterfall AND the Monsoon, correct? :P I feel like it would. I'm probably gonna screen where the backstrip of my tops are, just to have a /little/ bit of ventilation.

    Edit: I guess the waterfall would be for show, and the Monsoon be for watering the plants/humidity control.
    Last edited by Cody; August 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM. Reason: See Above.

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    I can't wait to see it finished,so I can do my tank.

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