Bufo nebulifer (Picture heavy)

[Kurt]

The taxonomy change has made what appears to be somewhat scant information even harder to find.

Try Ollotis nubilifer.
http://taxonomicon.taxonomy.nl/Taxon...search=ollotis*

[John]

Try Ollotis nubilifer.
http://taxonomicon.taxonomy.nl/Taxon...search=ollotis*

That's one I definitely don't accept - no maybe in there.

[Kurt]

Why is that?

[John]

Bufo alvarius and Bufo nebulifer look totally alien to each other - I don't see how they could be removed from Bufo and lumped together.

[Kurt]

They were lumped together under Bufo. Interesting to note that coniferus and the extinct periglenes are also currently found in the genus of Ollotis.

[John]

They were lumped together under Bufo.

I thought you might say that. It is one thing to change an old taxonomic lumping but completely another to lump obviously not closely allied species in a "new" genus. Someone needs to publish something solid to deal with this chaos caused by Frost.

[Kurt]

You can always write a strongly worded letter to Frost or we can go visit him at the AMNH in NYC.