I have to agree with John. I do not think force feeding is needed yet. I do not see MBD I can see he is thin in the one picture but i don't see that. That could just be from a sorry owner and not being fed often enough. I do think any animal with time and patience will come around. pinkies and fish are not good as a total diet but i firmly believe that every animal should have a wide variety of foods. So this being said mine get fed insects all week and one day on the weekend they get either a feeder fish or the following weekend a feeder pinky or fuzzy. Just depends on the weekend. I also know that i will need to worm them one time a month as well with panacur c dusted on their crickets. Which is fine. The main thing is they are getting a variety. Now my fantasy frog wont touch a pinky but loves him a feeder goldfish. This weekend its feeder goldfish weekend.![]()