Keeping multiple occupants in 1 house?

[Julia]

Yes to each their own. I dont feel like arguing something that only takes a little common sense. Two years is not a long time for a frog to live....ask experts on this site and veterinarians for their opinions and 99 percent will agree not to mix.

We take these animals out of the wild to keep them for our personal pleasure. Why take it a step further and mix several species. These animals would not live ontop of each other naturally in the wild so would we throw them in a tiny glass box and force them to live in this manner. Just because we CAN do these things does not mean that it is whats best for them.

I want people who are inexperienced and are reading this thread to understand both angles. Your opinion that it is okay, and mine that it is certainly not. Let them come to their own conclusions with the information provided.

I am curious if you are talking about this book: Care and Breeding of Popular Treefrogs by Philippe De Vosjoli. If so what year was it written.

[vince]

I am curious if you are talking about this book: Care and Breeding of Popular Treefrogs by Philippe De Vosjoli. If so what year was it written.

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No the book is popular amphibians he covers various frogs and newts it has a picture of bombina orientalis on the front, I got it because he covered a lot plants to go in your vivs if I can find the book I'll get you the bs no of it. I have got the one on Tree-fogs that you mentioned but you lend stuff out and you can't remember who to, then you go and buy it again and your mate returns your original . He covers aquatic , island and swamp [he doesn't call it that ] he just explains easy to keep stuff that you can have a lot of pleasure from.

[JimO]

In your opinion, would this sentiment extend to aquariums, reef tanks, vivs with more than one plant species, paludariums, etc.? All contain living things. Some contain both predator and prey.

I would add that what is best for them might be to be left alone in the wild.

We take these animals out of the wild to keep them for our personal pleasure. Why take it a step further and mix several species. These animals would not live ontop of each other naturally in the wild so would we throw them in a tiny glass box and force them to live in this manner. Just because we CAN do these things does not mean that it is whats best for them.

[Julia]

In your opinion, would this sentiment extend to aquariums, reef tanks, vivs with more than one plant species, paludariums, etc.? All contain living things. Some contain both predator and prey.

I would add that what is best for them might be to be left alone in the wild.

I agree that is whats best is to leave them in the wild. But being humans we are curious and greedy and keep them for our own pleasure. For me what somewhat justifies doing this is giving them the BEST possible life in captivity. To me this means taking away the fear of predators, providing as large of a home as possible, endless amounts of food and clean water etc. Also very important is to breed animals that are in danger of becoming extinct. But of course most of them are in risk BECAUSE of people.


I apologize if I have offended anyone with my point of view. I know there will always be people out there who disagree...but my intention was NOT to attack anyone personally, it was meant as a general statement. Of course there are factors and exceptions to the things I say, keep in mind they are just my personal opinion. I think this subject gets me so riled up because of what I deal with on a daily basis. I try to rescue reptiles and amphibians who are being abused or neglected. Most recently I took in a Basilisk who was kept in a desert tank with a bearded dragon. The basilisk has severe eye infections and a heavy parasite load. He may be blind and will never be normal. This is an extreme example but things like that happen every day.

[JimO]

My apologies Julia. I'm a pretty dedicated dad and over-reacted to your comments, which I know you didn't intend the way I took it. I also would like to apologize to the rest of the members for my reaction. It's no excuse, but it's been a tough week already.