thanks ror the reply. do you think it is worth my time to leave them in the rain chamber untill my female lays anyway ? I am on day 4 now and my frogs are still in amplexus but no spown yet. I have read that not all hybrids are infertile. the info on this seems to be a bit cloudy. some say they are only infertile when bred fantasy to fatasy. and some say they are infertile totally. and some say the infertile statment was made up to stop people from breeding them.