Crickets or Worms?

[gtr319]

since its cheaper to go with worms, i'll go with worms... any web site that you would suggest me to get them?

[Deku]

since its cheaper to go with worms, i'll go with worms... any web site that you would suggest me to get them?

I dont buy from websites. iam sure some people can show you some though. I actually just buy them off bait stores or walmart. Walmart sells a cup of 25 worms for like 2.50 or somewhere around that. There are other worms you can try. I know goliath and pheonix worms are rich in calcium. The goliath ones having a higher calcium content. Earthworms have a similar protein content to the crickets and are low in fat as are crickets. Theres other worms like wax worms which are supposed to be high in fat and meal worms/super worms/megaworms which have chitin so I personally dont recommend them. good luck

[Eel Noob]

Why not use both as well as other food items?




There's alot of worms you can go with. Wax worms, meal worms, phoenix worms, earthworm, silkworms, etc.


You can also feed fishes, roaches, locust, fish food pellets, just to name a few other food items.

[AlbinoFroggy]

So could you go to your backgarden and grab an earthworm and it could be suitable for your frog to eat? I have been thinking about getting worms instead of crickets for my frog but id want a tester (if you get what i mean) to see if he would be interested.

[Deku]

Why not use both as well as other food items?




There's alot of worms you can go with. Wax worms, meal worms, phoenix worms, earthworm, silkworms, etc.


You can also feed fishes, roaches, locust, fish food pellets, just to name a few other food items.

Fish can transmit parasites. Especially feeder fish.
Feeder fish:
Goldfish<---Terrible(they are high in fat and low on protein)
Minnows(not that bad a feeder)
Guppies(same as above)
Platies(same)

But all of these ussually contain parasites. Most of them die within the day. I used to work in a petstore and Id see 20feeders die a day. Even if kept in optimal conditions.

[Eel Noob]

Fish can transmit parasites. Especially feeder fish.
Feeder fish:
Goldfish<---Terrible(they are high in fat and low on protein)
Minnows(not that bad a feeder)
Guppies(same as above)
Platies(same)

But all of these ussually contain parasites. Most of them die within the day. I used to work in a petstore and Id see 20feeders die a day. Even if kept in optimal conditions.

You can get a wrong batch of any type of feeders and they can make your pet sick. All living creatures have the potential to carry parasites/sickness just not fishes. If you're that worried you can just either breed your own or just quarantine for a few weeks.

Petstore you used to work at is probably one of those that I always refuse to support because they always have dead animals lol.

[gtr319]

I dont buy from websites. iam sure some people can show you some though. I actually just buy them off bait stores or walmart. Walmart sells a cup of 25 worms for like 2.50 or somewhere around that. There are other worms you can try. I know goliath and pheonix worms are rich in calcium. The goliath ones having a higher calcium content. Earthworms have a similar protein content to the crickets and are low in fat as are crickets. Theres other worms like wax worms which are supposed to be high in fat and meal worms/super worms/megaworms which have chitin so I personally dont recommend them. good luck

I checked walmart last night and all they have are night crawlers and earthworms... I don't see any phoenix worms or the Goliath worms... u said I can find them @ the bait store correct?

[braaandooon]

I checked walmart last night and all they have are night crawlers and earthworms... I don't see any phoenix worms or the Goliath worms... u said I can find them @ the bait store correct?

you probaly wont find anything outside of red wigglers, meal worms, and nightcrawlers at walmart, goliath worms are usually ordered through an online retailer, or some bait shops may be able to get them, goliath worms really arent worth purchasing unless you have an adult frog, unless the goliath worms are already stocked and you are able to see what you are buying, my baitshop ordered me a few hoping id be able to get my suriname to feed, but the worms arrived pretty large, and after the suriname refused it, they were useless, as they were to big for my other pac to consume, the shelf life is short(3 weeks from baby to metamorphic state) on these worms also as they grow extremely fast and then change over into a moth, you can lengthen the shelf life of these worms with temps in the 50's but refrigeration will kill them, both of my goliath worms have already burrowed and started metamorphosis, when they hatch into moths i plan on feeding to my frogs if they will accept them, otherwise i'll just release them, these worms were just purchased less than a week ago also, not familiar with phoenix worms though as i have never seen them

[Deku]

I checked walmart last night and all they have are night crawlers and earthworms... I don't see any phoenix worms or the Goliath worms... u said I can find them @ the bait store correct?

walmart doesnt sell em. Try local bait shops. I know one near me that carries em now. What you want to look for are large green worms that look like caterpillars. They're also called hornworms? I think tobacco worms too?In any case just order a large batch of them online and with luck they should arrive quickly. :P

[gtr319]

@ braaandooon: assuming Pacatron takes 3 a night, then 25 would last 8 days.... I guess metamorphosis wouldn't be THAT big of a problem as long as Pacatron eats every night... I guess I will stick with Phoenix worms since they aren't that big in size

@ Deku: I tried to search on yelp to look for bait shop but no luck, but I would definitely try to contact the store where I got Pacatron from to see if they carry it since they are a reptile shop after all... worse come to worse, I just order online...

AND... Pacatron finally chow down a red wiggler today!! But he still wouldn't eat until he takes a mealworm first... is there any way to correct this habit?

[Deku]

@ braaandooon: assuming Pacatron takes 3 a night, then 25 would last 8 days.... I guess metamorphosis wouldn't be THAT big of a problem as long as Pacatron eats every night... I guess I will stick with Phoenix worms since they aren't that big in size

@ Deku: I tried to search on yelp to look for bait shop but no luck, but I would definitely try to contact the store where I got Pacatron from to see if they carry it since they are a reptile shop after all... worse come to worse, I just order online...

AND... Pacatron finally chow down a red wiggler today!! But he still wouldn't eat until he takes a mealworm first... is there any way to correct this habit?

If they morph just feed the morphed insect to them. It doesnt really matter. Try talking to local fishermen about bait shops.

[braaandooon]

@ braaandooon: assuming Pacatron takes 3 a night, then 25 would last 8 days.... I guess metamorphosis wouldn't be THAT big of a problem as long as Pacatron eats every night... I guess I will stick with Phoenix worms since they aren't that big in size

@ Deku: I tried to search on yelp to look for bait shop but no luck, but I would definitely try to contact the store where I got Pacatron from to see if they carry it since they are a reptile shop after all... worse come to worse, I just order online...

AND... Pacatron finally chow down a red wiggler today!! But he still wouldn't eat until he takes a mealworm first... is there any way to correct this habit?

well assuming pacatron is a smaller frog, i dont think he is gonna gobble down three of these worms a night, even the babies are quite big, and youd be suprised how big these worms could grow in a matter of 8 days, a week old horned worm would probaly be good to stuff your frog for a day, and within two weeks of buying these worms even if very young, the worms will be to big to feed a young pacman, i guess which is why i recommend these for adult frogs, unless you see the worms in person,and know what size you are aquiring, they are also quite pricey at almost a dollar a worm, heres a few online retailers that carry them

MULBERRY FARMS - SILKWORMS AND OTHER PREMIUM FEEDER INSECTS
YOUR BUGGIE HEADQUARTERS

[gtr319]

well assuming pacatron is a smaller frog, i dont think he is gonna gobble down three of these worms a night, even the babies are quite big, and youd be suprised how big these worms could grow in a matter of 8 days, a week old horned worm would probaly be good to stuff your frog for a day, and within two weeks of buying these worms even if very young, the worms will be to big to feed a young pacman, i guess which is why i recommend these for adult frogs, unless you see the worms in person,and know what size you are aquiring, they are also quite pricey at almost a dollar a worm, heres a few online retailers that carry them

MULBERRY FARMS - SILKWORMS AND OTHER PREMIUM FEEDER INSECTS
YOUR BUGGIE HEADQUARTERS

After looking @ the options, I think I'm better off with the earthworms for now.... BTW, I only seen Pacatron's poop once and saw him pee once... unless I'm missing it from the spot clean, but I don't see the poop... am I really missing it or Pacatron didn't poop? Given that he didn't use the water I provided, what should I do?