White dumpy info and help please

[Julia]

also could anyone put up pics i work better with pics...to show me how to set everything up.

thank you so much guys (:

This is my Whites Tree Frog set up. The front approx 4 or 5 inches is water. I glued glass inserts into the front to divide land/water. I added some neon tetras to the water so during the day when my frogs are sleeping, the fish are active... The land section has a false bottom made from gravel, mesh, and coco fiber. I planted live plants to help with the humidity and placed leaf litter over the soil. If you are interested in this idea there are step by step photos in my album.

[Diogo Juliao]

if i got the 18x18x24 what type of lighting would i use?

i have a bearded dragon so i know all about the uvb lights and such do frogs need just a uvb on top of their screen? or do they need any type of heat pad on the bottom of their tank..ive never use a heat pad before..i know they need humidity thats not a problem and ill get a very nice temp/humid monitor for the tank.

i just wanna know what is the best to put at the bottom..im thinking big flat river stones and live moss..but what kind of moss?

and do you guys reccomend those branches that you get from the pet store that bend everywhere if i sanitize it before i put it in?
orrrr....bamboo rods?

I think a reptile glo 2.0 uvb 26W would do the job. They are nocturnal, so they don't need much uvb radiation.

I use an heat cable to warm my tank: it's only 18 inches high, so I use it in the bottom but for a tank with 24 inches high t would be a good idea to use it on the back (always attached to the OUTSIDE of the tank).

You can use the exo-terra mosses, both sphagnum or live moss. Your idea of putting rock in the bottom seems cool.

You can collect dead branches in the wild and save a lot of money. You just got to boil them and wash them very well. They you to be even prettier than those you ger on a pet store

I think that's it...

[LittleDuudeIsAGirl]

This is my Whites Tree Frog set up. The front approx 4 or 5 inches is water. I glued glass inserts into the front to divide land/water. I added some neon tetras to the water so during the day when my frogs are sleeping, the fish are active... The land section has a false bottom made from gravel, mesh, and coco fiber. I planted live plants to help with the humidity and placed leaf litter over the soil. If you are interested in this idea there are step by step photos in my album.

Thanks ill take a look.

How does keeping the water work? Doesnt it get..gross i gues you could say, do you have a filtration system of some sort? i was thinking of just using a big natural looking water bowl and replacing the water every day or every other day.


heat pad:
Would it be ok to put on the back of the tank? would the heat still come thru the background? i was thinking of getting one of the cork backgrounds i guess or which one would you reccomend?

uvb:
Sounds great. ill get one just incase. to be on the safe side(:


substrate:
Im worried about cocoa husks only because if its swalowed...hearing the horror stories because im a bearded dragon owner. :/ its safe for whites? i hear they sometimes use their "hands" to push food in their mouths. Ya i was planning to get the biger flat river rocks..like 1-2inches..not the small pebble looking ones..just for that reason to avoid impaction. Which plants are great for whites? Im worried ill put the wrong ones in.

sorry for all the questions, im gonna be a new owner and want to make sure i have everything set up right so that when i do get the frog it will feel nice at home. Its for my boyfriend..but i want it all to be the right stuff..so far..the exo terra or zoo med 18x18x24 with a 2.0 uvb on top to be safe..a heat pad for the back side if my home temps drop too low..a nice big shallow water dish..flat river rocks (big so they wont be injested) soil? cocoa husks? or moss..or a little of all three? im still confused on that part. i plan to mist daily 2-3 times unless the humidity doesnt call for it.

[LittleDuudeIsAGirl]

i forgot to mention i was planning to put in a waterfall as well..i was reccomended the zoomed waterfall kit..all this stuff is so exciting thankyou so much guys.

[Diogo Juliao]

How does keeping the water work? Doesnt it get..gross i gues you could say, do you have a filtration system of some sort?

Only Julia can answer that but I'm guessing she does, or at least she does a lot of water changes. Otherwise the water would get too dirty.

heat pad:
Would it be ok to put on the back of the tank? would the heat still come thru the background? i was thinking of getting one of the cork backgrounds i guess or which one would you reccomend?

Yes you can put it on the back, and as a matter of fact it's the best option for tree frogs, because the heat you get everywhere. Cork backgrounds are cool and you can fix all sort of thing in them

substrate:
Im worried about cocoa husks only because if its swalowed...hearing the horror stories because im a bearded dragon owner. :/ its safe for whites? i hear they sometimes use their "hands" to push food in their mouths. Ya i was planning to get the biger flat river rocks..like 1-2inches..not the small pebble looking ones..just for that reason to avoid impaction. Which plants are great for whites? Im worried ill put the wrong ones in.

I feed my when they are on the top of the tank. That way they don't swallow anything but the food.
You can use big plants which reach the top of the tank with strong leaves that can hold the weight of the frogs.

Hope it helps

[LittleDuudeIsAGirl]

Only Julia can answer that but I'm guessing she does, or at least she does a lot of water changes. Otherwise the water would get too dirty.



Yes you can put it on the back, and as a matter of fact it's the best option for tree frogs, because the heat you get everywhere. Cork backgrounds are cool and you can fix all sort of thing in them



I feed my when they are on the top of the tank. That way they don't swallow anything but the food.
You can use big plants which reach the top of the tank with strong leaves that can hold the weight of the frogs.

Hope it helps

i think ill start with the backing that comes with the tank and then change to cork if i want something different. and great thing for the heat pad ill make sure to put it there also it wont be on just one side and we will be able to see in from all sides too.

so any plants that survive in humid conditions work pretty much?

[Diogo Juliao]

so any plants that survive in humid conditions work pretty much?

I don't know which plants you have available there in the USA, so I can't say all of them are good. Some of them may be poisonous.

But here you have some of the plants I've used with White's with good results:

- Big Bromeliads
- Dracaena marginata (white's love their big trunks)
- Small rubber trees (really strong leaves)
- Aglaonema sp.

And many more, I can't remind the names..

[Julia]

I use a small 5 gallon under water fish filter that runs 24/7. I also do a 40-50 percent water change once a week with a siphon. It takes less then 5 min to clean the water, and it stays crystal clear!