HELP! Advanced MBD in Gray Tree Frog?!

[ashleytm2015]

It may or may not be too late. He needs vitamins and calcium which could work. I'm not sure if you knew or were using this when you fed him but get some crickets or something slow like waxworms and go get a vitamin with D3 and cover the insect with it and present it to the frog. Make sure he eats it and give him a few of the feeders as much as he will eat and then wait and see how he does the next two days then get a calcium without D3 and cover the insect in it and feed it to the frog like you did with the vitamin. The Zoo Med products can be found at many pet stores and work for me.

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Thanks so much for the input. I did find two products that I started using: Fluker's Repta Calcium (with D3) and Fluker's Liquid Calcium. We have been using them for a few days. My frog seems to have more bearing, he has at least been able to tuck his legs beneath him, and pivot. Before when I created this post, his legs were sprawled out behind him, and he wasn't even moving them back. I put the crickets food source near him, so the crickets are close enough for him to eat. I am pretty sure he has eaten a few. Also, since he can't make it to water, I spray him. He does seem better than when I made the first post. When I made the first post, I was worried he wouldn't make it through the night. I am happy that he has made it through the week, and appears to be stronger. I am happy to nurse him, and do whatever it takes to have him survive, but I worry that he's in a lot of pain, discomfort, and suffering. He has not passed any food in at least a week, unless it's beneath him, since hes been in the same spot. I am afraid to move him because he seems so fragile.

[Larry Wardog]

Thanks so much for the input. I did find two products that I started using: Fluker's Repta Calcium (with D3) and Fluker's Liquid Calcium. We have been using them for a few days. My frog seems to have more bearing, he has at least been able to tuck his legs beneath him, and pivot. Before when I created this post, his legs were sprawled out behind him, and he wasn't even moving them back. I put the crickets food source near him, so the crickets are close enough for him to eat. I am pretty sure he has eaten a few. Also, since he can't make it to water, I spray him. He does seem better than when I made the first post. When I made the first post, I was worried he wouldn't make it through the night. I am happy that he has made it through the week, and appears to be stronger. I am happy to nurse him, and do whatever it takes to have him survive, but I worry that he's in a lot of pain, discomfort, and suffering. He has not passed any food in at least a week, unless it's beneath him, since hes been in the same spot. I am afraid to move him because he seems so fragile.

You can try and soak the frog in a cup or something small that is not deeper then his head. If he soaks it's easier for him to pass the food and keep feeding him and using the supplements! Let me know if the soak works. You can do it as much as you want but once every other night or so is good like after you feed him would be a good time and when the frog becomes active at least later in the evening when it should be active will be great.

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[ashleytm2015]

Thanks for the input. I am very happy to report, he is doing much better! I am so surprised, he looked very bad when I made the post. Not only does he look stronger, but he's able to move to the water dish on his own. Cleaning his tank, I realize he's passing his food. The back segment of back legs and toes still don't look strong though. Not sure if its me or not, but his back thighs look swollen too. He's now strong enough to squirm and flinch when I'm feeding him and cleaning his tank, and seems much happier in general. All of the nursing and caring is paying off. I'm still open to any other suggestions that would help him get stronger. I hope to see him strong enough to stick to the side of the tank again, (that's what he used to do all the time).

[Larry Wardog]

Thanks for the input. I am very happy to report, he is doing much better! I am so surprised, he looked very bad when I made the post. Not only does he look stronger, but he's able to move to the water dish on his own. Cleaning his tank, I realize he's passing his food. The back segment of back legs and toes still don't look strong though. Not sure if its me or not, but his back thighs look swollen too. He's now strong enough to squirm and flinch when I'm feeding him and cleaning his tank, and seems much happier in general. All of the nursing and caring is paying off. I'm still open to any other suggestions that would help him get stronger. I hope to see him strong enough to stick to the side of the tank again, (that's what he used to do all the time).

Two things that you can do now. Keep doing the same cycles of feeding but the crickets feed them fish flakes and bird seed and put some of the vitamin in the food for the crickets. You should make a small food pile in a bin you keep the crickets in so you add the fish flakes then vitamin then bird seed. If you feed the crickets the vitamin and they eat the food (which they will) it will make them very nutritious for him. It would be like eating a full course meal for a human. After you see the crickets eat the food wait a day or two and then feed them so they digest the vitamin and food. That should make a big difference. This part is important. You can buy Pedyalite but you need THE CLEAR PEDYALITE. NO FLAVOR. You can put this in a cup and just add a little bit and let the frog soak for about 20 minutes. Keep feeding waxworms mealworms and whatever else it will eat but days you feed crickets feed something else with them and when you wait for the crickets to eat the food give different feeders. You can buy waxworms earthworms and mealworms at Walmart. You can try Repti Worms from Petco or PetSmart. One thing you can try is to introduce UVB lighting but you might want to try the other steps first. The feeding crickets and a varied diet for the frog and the Pedyalite as well as what you've been doing is most important. I'm glad he's doing better!

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[ashleytm2015]

Thanks for the message. I did try the clear pedialyte. He is doing better, but I haven't noticed any more strides in the ability for him to move his back legs and toes. However, he is in a daily routine of going to the water bowl, sitting in his spot, and "hanging" on the side of the tank, as far as his front arms can reach (only front arms, not back legs). I would be interested in adding a light to his tank. I don't know much about it, but if it will help, I'm willing to try. I know he's nocturnal, so not sure if it would be put on during day or night.