Fearing that I too, got scammed. (Dwarf African Bullfrogs/Pyxies sold as Giants)

[Meatball]

So...

Where can you buy a real Giant African Bullfrog? Seems like everyone either doesn't have them or they don't have the real ones.

[jaguilar15]

So i have an issue, and i ordered a P. adspersus, but it does not look like a P. adspersus, looks more like an P. edulis! So please help me determine what type of pixie my frog is. Thank you! You know what, i almost bought that edulis thinking it was a adspersusThe links below are images of my frog. Can you check them out please. Thank you!

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0991.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0992.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0993.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0994.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0995.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0998.jpg

I almost bought the "giant pixie frog" at bigapple for $129. I thought it seemed wrong, but i'm glad to know that bigapple, i shouldn't trust. Generalexotics is very honest.. I told them i thought it was an edulis, and they gave me a full refund. It's funny ebcause i have got a P. edulis twice in a row. So the importer is obviously selling the company wrong products claiming it's something else. Also, I should think the american companies should know what they are doing before releasing the wrong product.

[jaguilar15]

One more thing, just like meatball, I was wondering if anyone knows where i can go to a legitimate website where i can get an P. adspersus male. I may know of a great one, Sweetarrowreptiles.com, they do not have any in stock right now, but I'm guessing next month they do, and he has a different importer and it's not overseas. Also, before purchasing your item, you have to e-mail the person, which forces you ask questions about the situation. It might be a little bit more expensive depending on where you are located due to the shipping process.

[Deku]

So i have an issue, and i ordered a P. adspersus, but it does not look like a P. adspersus, looks more like an P. edulis! So please help me determine what type of pixie my frog is. Thank you! You know what, i almost bought that edulis thinking it was a adspersusThe links below are images of my frog. Can you check them out please. Thank you!

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0991.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0992.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0993.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0994.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0995.jpg
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y70...t=DSCF0998.jpg

I almost bought the "giant pixie frog" at bigapple for $129. I thought it seemed wrong, but i'm glad to know that bigapple, i shouldn't trust. Generalexotics is very honest.. I told them i thought it was an edulis, and they gave me a full refund. It's funny ebcause i have got a P. edulis twice in a row. So the importer is obviously selling the company wrong products claiming it's something else. Also, I should think the american companies should know what they are doing before releasing the wrong product.

Thats defenitely a dwarf. Why not just ask them for a refund? Talk to steven. Tell them you have proof that it isnt a giant african bullfrog like its said and ask for a refund(nicely). Keep us up to date on how it goes! :} good luck! Also try kingsnake.com or faunaforums. You can also go to petstores and ask them to order one.
Good luck hope this helps.

[Deku]

One more thing, just like meatball, I was wondering if anyone knows where i can go to a legitimate website where i can get an P. adspersus male. Thanks!

kingsnake.com kingsnake.com kingsnake.com --- What goes after that? you guessed it! kingsnake.com hopes this helps. That site are classifieds and people put their animals up for sale. Should they give you the wrong animal itll be easier to handle than a big corp.

[jaguilar15]

Kevin,

Thanks for the information!! That's exactly what i thought when i first got him/her! I've been actually arguing with the guy for the last week. So this should be a perfect example. Who's steve? Sorry I am new to this forum thing haha. and thanks for the websites i'll check them out

[jaguilar15]

Can more people indicate that my frog is a P. Edulis for proof of evidence that it is one, but only if you think it is a P. Edulis.

Thank you!

[Mordecai]

Sorry to hear about your recent discovery. Same thing happened here. We are in the process of trying to send our frog back for a refund, and just like you, it's been a back and forth type of deal with the company. It's such a shame how frequently this is happening. Have you sent two back already? with successful refunds?
I have also been checking kingsnake and multiple other websites searching for a true giant pyxie...seems to be an extensive dry spell going on right now.

[Deku]

Kevin,

Thanks for the information!! That's exactly what i thought when i first got him/her! I've been actually arguing with the guy for the last week. So this should be a perfect example. Who's steve? Sorry I am new to this forum thing haha. and thanks for the websites i'll check them out

Past week? Dear lord! seriously these people are starting to fizz me off! I mean for lords sake THEY know its a friggin' dwarf! Well steve is one of the guys that works there. when you call next ask for steve. This is what you should do. Send them an email with a real photo of a adult pixie frog and its juvenile stage. The juvenile stage you can find on google.

Then send the pictures of a dwarf pixie frog adult, and then its juvenile stage.

Try getting as many pics of each as possible. Referances to this site will work as well. Referances to other sites. Take a photo of your frog and even make comparisons. If they say "maybe its urdurh diffurunht colur" (jokingly) then tell them frogs do not vary in color like that unless its a different subspecies or a different morph. Pixie frogs DO NOT have morphs. Tell them that you paid 130 for a JUVENILE GIANT PIXIE FROG. Use the scientific name. Take photographs of their site and show it to them. Tell them that they put pictures of a wrong frog on t here. That THAT isnt the frog itself they were selling. If they act dumb I know they know because there are a few people in here who already told the guys there that its really an adult dwarf. Just ask for full refund, shipping too.


Because honestly this is false advertising and it is against the law. At first I was alittle bit adamant but now seeing that more and more people are getting jipped. This is no coincidence!

[SethD]

I have also been checking kingsnake and multiple other websites searching for a true giant pyxie...seems to be an extensive dry spell going on right now.

Since the frog ranch in CA is pretty much the only one breeding south african giants in the USA and they are not imported as wc's it is doubtful that your going to find any until th next time the frog ranch wholesales off some more CB froglets. Then lots of dealers will have them. In the mean time all you are likely to find is wc "dwarf" pixies and the wc(supposedly ranched but I doubt that) Tanzanian pixies which seem a bit different both from the south african giants and what has been sold as dwarf pixies in the past.

[Meatball]

Since the frog ranch in CA is pretty much the only one breeding south african giants in the USA and they are not imported as wc's it is doubtful that your going to find any until th next time the frog ranch wholesales off some more CB froglets. Then lots of dealers will have them. In the mean time all you are likely to find is wc "dwarf" pixies and the wc(supposedly ranched but I doubt that) Tanzanian pixies which seem a bit different both from the south african giants and what has been sold as dwarf pixies in the past.

I emailed the frog ranch and they have a $300 minimum you must spend with them and they sell the froglets at $18 a piece. That means you could buy 16 of these baby pixies for yourself. I was thinking about doing this then selling most of them myself. This is obviously not something to be taken lightly because a lot of planning must be involved. But just an idea in my head (which will probably be done by someone else now that I've posted this but whatever) because I know there is such a huge demand for them. But after getting screwed over it makes me want to do this so I can have my pick of the litter.

[John]

I emailed the frog ranch and they have a $300 minimum you must spend with them and they sell the froglets at $18 a piece. That means you could buy 16 of these baby pixies for yourself. I was thinking about doing this then selling most of them myself. This is obviously not something to be taken lightly because a lot of planning must be involved. But just an idea in my head (which will probably be done by someone else now that I've posted this but whatever) because I know there is such a huge demand for them. But after getting screwed over it makes me want to do this so I can have my pick of the litter.

I'd actually love to try that.

[Meatball]

I'd actually love to try that.

Yes and with nice little community like this forum I'm sure something could be worked out to where everyone is happy (ie. not have 5 people from this forum do that so that there are so many orphan frogs lol)

[jaguilar15]

Sorry to hear about your recent discovery. Same thing happened here. We are in the process of trying to send our frog back for a refund, and just like you, it's been a back and forth type of deal with the company. It's such a shame how frequently this is happening. Have you sent two back already? with successful refunds?
I have also been checking kingsnake and multiple other websites searching for a true giant pyxie...seems to be an extensive dry spell going on right now.

Yes, it has been an ongoing back and forth thing. i actually kept one of them, generalexotics was nice about it, and they said, "I agree it doesn't look like a P. adspersus. So they gave me a full refund back and let me keep the frog. And this problem occured again. So i ask for a refund. and they still keep arguing with me saying it's a P. adspersus. I clearly determined it was a P. edulis.

ATTENTION: I AM USING THIS FORUM AS EVIDENCE THAT MORE THAN JUST ME THINKS MY P. EDULIS IS NOT A P. ADSPERSUS. So PLEASE BE KIND AND LEAVE A COMMENT SAYING IT'S A DWARF, BUt ONLY IF YOU TRUELY THINK IT IS A DWARF.

[jaguilar15]

I emailed the frog ranch and they have a $300 minimum you must spend with them and they sell the froglets at $18 a piece. That means you could buy 16 of these baby pixies for yourself. I was thinking about doing this then selling most of them myself. This is obviously not something to be taken lightly because a lot of planning must be involved. But just an idea in my head (which will probably be done by someone else now that I've posted this but whatever) because I know there is such a huge demand for them. But after getting screwed over it makes me want to do this so I can have my pick of the litter.

that actually sounds like the best idea lol. But $300 dollars is alot, and i do not know too many frog owners or wanna be future frog owners. So I would have a handful.

[Deku]

Yes, it has been an ongoing back and forth thing. i actually kept one of them, generalexotics was nice about it, and they said, "I agree it doesn't look like a P. adspersus. So they gave me a full refund back and let me keep the frog. And this problem occured again. So i ask for a refund. and they still keep arguing with me saying it's a P. adspersus. I clearly determined it was a P. edulis.

ATTENTION: I AM USING THIS FORUM AS EVIDENCE THAT MORE THAN JUST ME THINKS MY P. EDULIS IS NOT A P. ADSPERSUS. So PLEASE BE KIND AND LEAVE A COMMENT SAYING IT'S A DWARF, BUt ONLY IF YOU TRUELY THINK IT IS A DWARF.

Its obviously a dwarf. I mean if it wasnt itd look like an actual juvenile giant pixie.

[jaguilar15]

Its obviously a dwarf. I mean if it wasnt itd look like an actual juvenile giant pixie.

haha Thank you!!! Because the guy keeps saying he did his research and sees that it is a true giant pixie. When it indeed does look like a dwarf!

[jaguilar15]

Sorry i don't know if you guys can see those links anymore, but i uploaded them again

[jelkins]

If the Frog Ranch has P. adspersus froglets in-stock with a minimum order of $300 dollars then I'd like to suggest those of you, like me, that want to aquire this species consider going in together on an order?

Perhaps there can be some way to do it where this site benefits or caudata.org benefits from it? Set it up where we pool our money together for the order and let the site sell off the remainnig frogs for a donation profit of sorts?

If there are 5 people interested then it would be about $60 dollars apiece?

[Kevin1]

So The Frog Ranch has baby pyxies? I'd donate what I can to get our hands on some some TRUE Giants.