What I want to do:

[honeybeze]

So...just plain old pea gravel? Or 3/4 minus drain rock? OK, that works for me. I just do not want to deal with water changes and filters. It is why I haven't reset my reef. Well, that and the darn things cost a fortune!

[honeybeze]

@tropicok...While I understand that you are obviously frustrated at my overly wordy question, I would like to point out that you weren't really required to answer or read it. I don't have much leisure time being the mother of 5, so, rather than track 50 threads I tried to get all into one. This saves me time. And I have no lighting or filtration questions. I am an advanced (extremely) aquarist. Simply put I refuse to have any filter of any sort. As for 'jumping in' I have to disagree with that particular philosophy, simply because as with our reefs, frogs are over-hunted for the hobby trade. If I can avoid killing one or more through ignorance then I am being responsible, not annoying. Were I to have jumped in and just thrown together a hab, without any research, I would have killed one right off using bare gravel and sand, as I have tons of the stuff

[Paul Rust]

@tropicok...While I understand that you are obviously frustrated at my overly wordy question, I would like to point out that you weren't really required to answer or read it. I don't have much leisure time being the mother of 5, so, rather than track 50 threads I tried to get all into one. This saves me time. And I have no lighting or filtration questions. I am an advanced (extremely) aquarist. Simply put I refuse to have any filter of any sort. As for 'jumping in' I have to disagree with that particular philosophy, simply because as with our reefs, frogs are over-hunted for the hobby trade. If I can avoid killing one or more through ignorance then I am being responsible, not annoying. Were I to have jumped in and just thrown together a hab, without any research, I would have killed one right off using bare gravel and sand, as I have tons of the stuff

A mother of 5? Is that all? I have 8 children and tons of frogs, get with it girl.

[JimO]

A mother of 5? Is that all? I have 8 children and tons of frogs, get with it girl.

Outstanding!

[Tropicok]

You are right, Honeybeze, sorry for being snippy. I am also the mother of 5 children (all grown and gone now).

[honeybeze]

I have 'only' 5 because I have a really rare condition of pregnancy called ICP, or intrahepatic cholestatsis of pregnancy. It makes me very sick and itchy and it poisons both the baby and I. It also has no outward signs or symptoms. Doctors assume all pregnant women itch, and it's no big deal. BUT this particular woman itches everywhere, all the time. It is the type of itching that makes you insane a little.

I think what I am going to start with is a relatively bare tank. Just until I get better at this.

[bshmerlie]

Honeybeze I think you're doing the right thing about researching as much as you can before you get your frogs. It's the responsible thing to do. I also had a reef set up when I was in my early 20's for about 10 years. When I first started I lost some fish during the "learning" process. But had I gone to a forum like this before my set up the results would have been different. Although, of course we didn't have the internet back then, but that's beside the point. Now I'm older and very careful when getting a new pet and do quite a bit of research before hand. I have 10 frogs in my household and I've never lost a single one. They are living things and we all need to treat them with the respect they deserve. If some alien race came and scooped up some humans and put them into a "habitat" I sure hope they would do some research before hand or we might find ourselves living in a frozen artic environment in a bikini.

[honeybeze]

me in a bikini? Everyone else would die of fright...

[Kurt]

I would use LECA over pea gravel any day. It weighs considerably less than gravel. You can find it under the names Hydroballs (ZooMed) and Hydroton. The ZooMed product may be easier to find as Petsmart carries it. I prefer Hydroton, as it is a better product, quality-wise.

You will also need atleast three filters per tank. Just kidding! Seriously, they only tanks of mine that have filters are the rain chambers/tadpole tanks.

[honeybeze]

:P OK, Kurt, now I have your number. LOL Thanks for the info.

[Paul Rust]

So...just plain old pea gravel? Or 3/4 minus drain rock? OK, that works for me. I just do not want to deal with water changes and filters. It is why I haven't reset my reef. Well, that and the darn things cost a fortune!

If you use any rock you must be careful that the frogs can't ingest it. When they catch crickets they bring in everything around the cricket also. Small rocks can become lodged in the intestines and kill your frogs. I cover all my rock with moss.