Need advice to save frogs

[Deku]

First, the species must be identified. Second, once identified, it must be either protected by the state or by the Federal Government. Looking at the Michigan DNR web site the only amphibians the state considers to be endangers are Ambystoma opacum and Ambystoma texanum. Acris crepitans blanchardi is considered threatened. So if you could find the larva or tadpoles of these three species in this pond, you could possibly shut this operation down.
Also, if Clemmys guttata and Nerodia erythogaster neglecta were fond in the pond, they too would shut it down.

isnt clemmys guttata a spottted turtle?

[Deku]

If they dont shut it down. Just tresspass without getting caught. Keypointon't get caught. :P And take with you tons and tons of jars fill with fresh clean river water. Get the tadpoles. As many as you can, rear them in your own pond. Or get akiddy pool->20bucks. Rear them there. Make sure to cover the pool with mesh or something of the sort to keep out predators. Use a pond filter. But make sure it isnt strong. Put sand in as the bottom. Get plants like anachris and other plants found near you that they would eat. Fill it up with pond water. Get fake lilly pads so they can get out when they metamorph. If you have bullfrog tadpoles. Don't worry much about them. As much as I dont want to say this. But theres too many bullfrogs in the wild. So it doesnt matter. Focus on frogs like treefrogs, toads(especially toads), wood frogs, etc. If you STILL want to grow the bullfrog tadpoles. then get a large 55gallon rubbermaid. Set it up like a fishtank. Use pond water, plants and everything and wait till they mature, then release them. Make sure not to use a strong filter. Tadpoles are poor swimmers. I would add tons of air stones though on the sides. Because it adds alot of oxygen to the tank. So get a hang on filter made for 100gallons. And voila. You should add live plants, drop in a few algea waffers every 2-3days. I would add tropical fish flakes and goldfish flakes every 2days. To make sure they are well fed. Or you can make suspended gels made purely out of veggies. Like carrots, kale, mustard greens, asparagus, fruits, etc. Make sure it doesnt have enzymes. Put it on the blender for liquid. Then mix it up with tasteless, colorless, transparent jello. Put in freezer. Then drop in a few cubes every 2days.

[bshmerlie]

If DNR is unwilling to leave some water in the pond for the tadpoles to develop enough I would first verify visually that there are tadpoles there this year and then contact the news media (ABC- NBC- CBS- Discovery Channel) anyone and everyone who will cover your story. That will put public pressure on them to do something, ie, "save the frogs". Bring up the fact that amphibian populations world wide are on a massive decline due to habitat destruction such as this. But please check first that this is not some invasive species of frog or toad that shouldn't be in your state in the first place. Then they would be seen as the heroes.

[bshmerlie]

Or yes...you could do as Kevin suggested and raise tens of thousands of frogs in your backyard. Call me your done I would like to see this.

[bluechip]

Thanks for the quick reply guys! The draining is probably about a month away, so plenty of time to think about this one. All the water is pumped into the pond from a river that is about 100 yds away. The water passes through a large screened box to keep out predator fish such as bass, bluegill, pike and such. This makes an ideal, predator free area for the tadpoles, except herons or other wading birds. A walk along the grassy banks of the pond at this moment shows a lot of bullfrogs and leopard frogs (sorry, my latin isn't that great!), but I'll go as far as saying they are rana-something or other. I would think that the adults that are spawning in the pond now are easier to identify than newly hatched tadpoles, so possibly a close examination at this time might reveal the species involved. What I'm gathering here is, if they are common bullfrogs and brown and green leopard frogs, no agency will show much sympathy. I'll take a close look this weekend and see what adults may be found.
Thanks to all

[bshmerlie]

If I'm not mistaken the Bull frog and the leopard frogs are the ones used for "frog legs". Perhaps if you informed the fishing company that they have two sources of income in this one pond at least the frogs would not go to waste. America is one of the largest importers of frog legs in the world. They have tried frog farming in various southern states maybe your pond would be a good source. That fishing company could even sell the use of that pond to a frog leg company. Large companies often think with their profits and that is sometimes the best motivating factor.

[Deku]

If its bullfrogs probably not. But here is what you can do.

Dress as a ninja.
Go over there and collect as many as possible
Bolt right out of there
Get your own indoor 55g tank oe outdoor 55g rubbermaid tub
Set it up nicely.
Then after two years release somewhere else and keep one if you want(Bullfroglets)
While each year you can keep adding more. Or what you can do is, keep em, then sell em to people who like bullfrogs. :P

[bluechip]

I mentioned the problem to a friend a bit ago and he had a suggestion that sounds good. I'll see if the DNR will simply refill the pond with a foot or two of water at the end of their fish harvesting. The DNR will probably have some reason not to do it, but it's worth a try.

[Kurt]

isnt clemmys guttata a spottted turtle?

Yes, Clemmys guttata is the spotted turtle.