Importing Frogs from another country into US?

[Kurt]

Yes, but thats because they have special permits. They do it for a good cause.

No, its capitalism, plain and simple. Well, unless we are talking about Brian Kubicki. Then there a conservation element to it.

People are able to breed frogs in captivity because they are complete experts and they have really huuge enclosures.

Not every breeder is a complete expert. I will be the first one to admit that I am still learning about red-eyed leaf frog even though I have bred them a few times.

[Deku]

No, its capitalism, plain and simple. Well, unless we are talking about Brian Kubicki. Then there a conservation element to it.



Not every breeder is a complete expert. I will be the first one to admit that I am still learning about red-eyed leaf frog even though I have bred them a few times.

Shhh. She doesnt know that. XDDD anywho yeah agreed not every true breeder is an expert. But they have more experience under their belt than a newbie or a normal keeper. But I would say that yeah if anyone could take a frog from a place like that would be an actual legit breeder.

[Kurt]

Breeders are just hobbyist who took it to the next step.

[Deku]

Breeders are just hobbyist who took it to the next step.

Who succeded. I think thats what seperates the newbies from the experienced. Now its not bad being a newbie. We all are newbies. Heck I can still be c onsidered one. But yeah. My knowledge is more of field herping type. :P I can find pretty much anything if I have atleast a few accessible bodies of water. xD I found treefrog eggs and tadpoles by the thousands. :P

[bshmerlie]

Kurt, the glass frogs are actually what I was talking about. The Centrolene ilex and the Sachatamia ilex are not threatened or endangered but are simply not available in the US pet trade for some reason. I emailed Brian earlier today about seeing his facility when I go down there it's just so facinating. Their care does seem a little more complicated then my RETF's and Fire bellies so I definately wouldn't want to attempt something like that until I had a few more years under my belt. Although, I would love to get a half a dozen or so and give them to one of those "complete experts with the really huge enclosures" so that someday they would be more prevelant in the US pet trade.

[Kurt]

Kurt, the glass frogs are actually what I was talking about. The Centrolene ilex and the Sachatamia ilex are not threatened or endangered but are simply not available in the US pet trade for some reason.

Just in case you didn't know, Centrolene ilex and Sachatamia ilex are the same thing. Centrolene is the old genus and Sachatamia is the new genus. I still use Centrolene, because I know how to spell it.

I think I met Brian once. I bought his book on Costa Rican glass frogs at the NAAC in Erving, MA. I think I bought it from him, not sure. Never paid attention to who was selling it, I was just so messmerized by the book that I bought it and walked away. I will have to ask Rich at Black Jungle if it was indeed Brian selling the book that day.

The only glass frogs I have seen in person are the reticulated glass frogs, Hyalinobatrachium valerioi. Black Jungle is trying to breed them for the ABG.