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    I bought play sand for the aquarium and did a fairly thorough washing of it. However, I did not sift and there are a few small rocks here and there. I am not sure of the risk. The frogs are nearly 3" and each rock seems to be .25" max. How much of a danger is this?
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    Hmm, well I did not intend to give contradictory advice here. Just figured if the goal here is substrate replacement then perhaps just sand would be a more simple method since dirt would require a complete breakdown. There certainly is no right or wrong way to go. All I can really advise is what I know from personal experience. I do know with proper lighting clawed frogs produce plenty of waste to provide nutrients to water column feeding plants with sand as substrate.

    Soil is a great way to go and it's better than root tabs but it also depends what type of plants you want. I like vals and water sprite and even duckweed, the goal for my plants is to provide a lot of hiding locations, basking for the frogs, and act as a biofilter so I've selected fast growing plants with few demands that see feed on nitrates from the water column.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmistr View Post
    Hmm, well I did not intend to give contradictory advice here. Just figured if the goal here is substrate replacement then perhaps just sand would be a more simple method since dirt would require a complete breakdown. There certainly is no right or wrong way to go. All I can really advise is what I know from personal experience. I do know with proper lighting clawed frogs produce plenty of waste to provide nutrients to water column feeding plants with sand as substrate.

    Soil is a great way to go and it's better than root tabs but it also depends what type of plants you want. I like vals and water sprite and even duckweed, the goal for my plants is to provide a lot of hiding locations, basking for the frogs, and act as a biofilter so I've selected fast growing plants with few demands that see feed on nitrates from the water column.
    I don't think you were the cause of any problem. The advice is good for a beginner and even then I make mistakes with what sand to buy.
    Do you know if the API root tabs plus iron have any ill effect on the frogs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeClownBlanc View Post
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    I bought play sand for the aquarium and did a fairly thorough washing of it. However, I did not sift and there are a few small rocks here and there. I am not sure of the risk. The frogs are nearly 3" and each rock seems to be .25" max. How much of a danger is this?
    I believe there is a very real risk of the frog ingesting a 1/4" pebble.
    It is amazing what they can fit in their mouths!
    If fact, if they are smaller - the risk is even greater ----they will accidentally be 'inhaled' if/when the frog eats off the substrate and collect in its stomach.

    Here is a FF thread you may want to read.
    http://www.frogforum.net/aquatic-cla...avel-help.html

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    The chances are minimal but still present.
    I would use a small net to remove them as you see them during cleanings.

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    I hand feed them...so they don't really feed from the bottom.
    I got a picture of what the sand looks like and one can see the pebbles that are causing a concern for this compaction issue..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeClownBlanc View Post
    I hand feed them...so they don't really feed from the bottom.
    I got a picture of what the sand looks like and one can see the pebbles that are causing a concern for this compaction issue..
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    And what to do with the sand? Most sifters would probably let that grain through. Should I pitch the stuff and go with more expensive aquarium sand?
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