Waxy Monkey (Phyllomedusa sauvagii) enclosure

[chosen2030]

Forgive my ignorance, Carlos, but why does such a small frog, even when adult size, need so much space? I think I'm going to start with a 12x12x18 exo terra. The ambient temperature in my house is generally 72-77 degrees and about 30% humidity. I was wondering, since I only have one frog, what purpose does quarantining serve? Do you have any suggestions on how to get my already existing water marks off the glass? By the way, I totally agree about getting the enclosure set up first before getting the frog, but I have been searching reptile & amphibian shows for the last 5 years for a Sauvagii (I prefer to see the animal I'm buying first) and this was the first time there have been any - I just couldn't pass it up.

[Lija]

Forgive my ignorance, Carlos, but why does such a small frog, even when adult size, need so much space? I think I'm going to start with a 12x12x18 exo terra. The ambient temperature in my house is generally 72-77 degrees and about 30% humidity. I was wondering, since I only have one frog, what purpose does quarantining serve? Do you have any suggestions on how to get my already existing water marks off the glass? By the way, I totally agree about getting the enclosure set up first before getting the frog, but I have been searching reptile & amphibian shows for the last 5 years for a Sauvagii (I prefer to see the animal I'm buying first) and this was the first time there have been any - I just couldn't pass it up.

Ok here is a problem, waxes need company of their own, they need to be in groups of at least 2-3. Temps too low, enclosure is fine, while he is a baby. And hey we all made impulse purchases, it us all good, but you need to set up properly.

Oh and if you already have water marks, does it mean you had someone in there before? Then you need to disinfect tank first.
I'm getting rid of water marks this way - slightly spray water on a walls, and then scrape them with blade, then I use Zilla terrarium cleaner, after that tank looks like new.

In regards to the size of that a tank, Carlos is right, eventually you will need a big tank, especially if you have females, some people keep them in 7' tall tanks, that I would love to do too if only space allows. We're talking about 2,5-3" frogs if a male and 3-3,5" if female, both sexes have very long legs that they use for climbing, they need space to do so.

[chosen2030]

Ok here is a problem, waxes need company of their own, they need to be in groups of at least 2-3. Temps too low, enclosure is fine, while he is a baby. And hey we all made impulse purchases, it us all good, but you need to set up properly.

Oh and if you already have water marks, does it mean you had someone in there before? Then you need to disinfect tank first.
I'm getting rid of water marks this way - slightly spray water on a walls, and then scrape them with blade, then I use Zilla terrarium cleaner, after that tank looks like new.

Please explain - this is honestly the first time I've heard they need to be kept in groups. Is this a really a must or is it more what would be optimal? Yes, the tank used to be home to a gargoyle gecko.

[Lija]

They are communal, they need company of their own, the more the better. Based on experience I have to say it is a must, depending on a frog itself, some can take it easier, some harder, but you will miss on all their interaction, cb are taking it easier usually. I must also say frogs who can take it harder you will notice being sad all the time, not as green, but dull olive colour, eventually sitting on a floor of a tank and die for no apparent reason.

You have to disinfect your tank if you had garg in there, get wipe off, spray it , wash really well after, then scrape water marks as I described and use that zilla cleaner, it is awesome. That is how I clean all tanks once a month.

[chosen2030]

They are communal, they need company of their own, the more the better. Based on experience I have to say it is a must, depending on a frog itself, some can take it easier, some harder, but you will miss on all their interaction, cb are taking it easier usually. I must also say frogs who can take it harder you will notice being sad all the time, not as green, but dull olive colour, eventually sitting on a floor of a tank and die for no apparent reason.

If that's the case, that sucks. It may be a while before I can get 2 companions for him/her. On the positive side, I only buy captive bred. Do waxies have a breeding season?

[chosen2030]

Well, this is the enclosure I came up with on such a short time frame. Hopefully it meets all of his/her requirements.

[Mentat]

I remove stubborn water spots (on empty tank) by dabbing with full strength vinegar on sponge or paper towel and after a minute, removing with aquarium algae scraper. Recommend follow Lija's advice since she keeps these species. Good luck !

[Lija]

Well, this is the enclosure I came up with on such a short time frame. Hopefully it meets all of his/her requirements.

Will never get tired of seeing waxy, as much as I love fat frogs, waxes are my favourite by far yours is so pretty, would you please take a pic of his face sideways, it seems from that angle you have a boy here.

your tank is fine, I'd add a bit more brunches on top of different diameter, so a frog had a choice of sitting on different sized branches, it helps them to exercise their grip. Also since they almost always will sit in a highest spot, you need to make different things up there.

You have UVB, do you?

Oh and if you could get just one more from the same breeder you will be fine. Yes they do have a breeding season, it is a long and very particular process to get them here, especially for females.