New Froglet Not eating-owned for less than 24 hrs-1 inch svl

[GrifTheGreat]

Ill be a bit more specific on the dusting. Dusting should be applied differently based on the diet you provide. Also what diet you apply to your insect and their calcium/phosphate/protein/uric acid levels are to benefit your herp. For instance if you feed a high protein and vitamin source food such as dubia roaches, superworm, earthworm you wont need to dust. Or if you feed gutloaded crickets you wont need to dust as often. I do not gutload my crickets because they end up getting fed off to fast. Maybe one gutload fed day which is not enough to provide nutrients to you herp. So I am required to dust daily due to the lack of nutrition the petstores and most cricket breeding farms provide. If you gutload feed 2 to 3 days before feeding you crickets should have enough vitamins and calcium in their system to dust once a week on vitamins and 3 to 4 tines a week on calcium. I go through my crickets to fast to gutload efficiently hense the fact of dusting daily. This is also a recomendation provided to me by michael novy a 20 year breeder of frogs. In addition I dont end up making a feeding everyday. Maybe 4 to 5 days out of the week they get fed. So ill also rephrase: daily being substituted with each feeding

This is not correct CJ. Horned frogs need INSANE amounts of calcium to support their growth. As a matter of fact they need far more calcium than other frogs within the hobby. This is crutial for them to develope proper bone growth and dencity. Gutloading is not enough and just offering calcium rich feeders is not enough. They will still need calcium supplements. Vitamins while important are needed less than the calcium.

Earthworms are high in protein and calcium, but if not supplemented with calcium the frog still has a greater chance of developing MBD, Hypocalcemia, or teteny. A diverse diet is always jmportant though.

[CJ PELCHER]

This is not correct CJ. Horned frogs need INSANE amounts of calcium to support their growth. As a matter of fact they need far more calcium than other frogs within the hobby. This is crutial for them to develope proper bone growth and dencity. Gutloading is not enough and just offering calcium rich feeders is not enough. They will still need calcium supplements. Vitamins while important are needed less than the calcium.

Earthworms are high in protein and calcium, but if not supplemented with calcium the frog still has a greater chance of developing MBD, Hypocalcemia, or teteny. A diverse diet is always jmportant though.

My appologies. I didnt not see HORNED frog in the thread. I thought i was in a tree frog thread. o.0 (embarrassing) I generally remain in the tree frog subcategory threads. I just clicked on a recent thread and migrated to a category I dont normally migrate to. Im not even a keeper of horned frogs yet either! Good heads up though. Appreciated

Despite the confusion, I think I stumbled accross a good learning oportunity. Can you educate me on why horned frogs calcium needs are greater than a bombina or whites tree frog,red eye tree frog? I ask this because the general dusting guidelines for tree frogs is 3 times of calcium D3 a week and 1 time a week of vitamins with gutloaded crickets. Based off what other horned frog keepers are stating in this thread its the same guideline? I honestly think this would help me be less confused. Any supportive links would be awesome! I think I need a clearer picture:My question lies with this..

Despite feeding Higher protein and higher calcium insects your still keeping the amount of dusting the same for crickets verses earthworms/dubias ext ext.. for a horned frog? I am guessing that since you need a higher demand of calcium in horned frogs adaily calcium dusting would be sufficent if your using a daily staple diet of crickets since the calcium ratios are far less in cricket verses earthworm and dubia. I may be mistaken.
Either way I agree with a variety diet, I think its very benefitial to all herps.

Respectively,

Corey

[GrifTheGreat]

My appologies. I didnt not see HORNED frog in the thread. I thought i was in a tree frog thread. o.0 (embarrassing) I generally remain in the tree frog subcategory threads. I just clicked on a recent thread and migrated to a category I dont normally migrate to. Im not even a keeper of horned frogs yet either! Good heads up though. Appreciated

Despite the confusion, I think I stumbled accross a good learning oportunity. Can you educate me on why horned frogs calcium needs are greater than a bombina or whites tree frog,red eye tree frog? I ask this because the general dusting guidelines for tree frogs is 3 times of calcium D3 a week and 1 time a week of vitamins with gutloaded crickets. Based off what other horned frog keepers are stating in this thread its the same guideline? I honestly think this would help me be less confused. Any supportive links would be awesome! I think I need a clearer picture:My question lies with this..

Despite feeding Higher protein and higher calcium insects your still keeping the amount of dusting the same for crickets verses earthworms/dubias ext ext.. for a horned frog? I am guessing that since you need a higher demand of calcium in horned frogs adaily calcium dusting would be sufficent if your using a daily staple diet of crickets since the calcium ratios are far less in cricket verses earthworm and dubia. I may be mistaken.
Either way I agree with a variety diet, I think its very benefitial to all herps.

Respectively,

Corey

When I get time I'll find the article that mentions calcium requirements. Daily dusting is a little much, but it never hurts to dust a high calcium meal for extra benefit.