Hello again! And another new addition....

[Kurt]

The Chinese flying frog, a rather large treefrog similar in size and appearance to Litoria infrafrenata, is also listed as Rhacophorus dennysi. I have also seen the name Polypedates dennysi for these two frogs. So my confussion is this, are they the same frog or is this a mislabeling by the reptile trade? They don't look like the same frog to me.

[Paul Rust]

The Chinese flying frog, a rather large treefrog similar in size and appearance to Litoria infrafrenata, is also listed as Rhacophorus dennysi. I have also seen the name Polypedates dennysi for these two frogs. So my confussion is this, are they the same frog or is this a mislabeling by the reptile trade? They don't look like the same frog to me.

Rhacophorus dennysi and Polypedates dennysi appear to be the same animal, Vietnamese Flying Tree Frog. At least I think so. Litoria infrafrenata might have been mislabeled. I don't know for sure but I am going to research it further.

[Kurt]

You misunderstood me. Litoria infrafrenata is not confused with the Chinese flying frog or Vietnamese blue treefrog. I was just comparing L. infrafrenata to the Chinese flying frog as they are very similar in appearance, but not to the point that one would have trouble IDing one from the other.

The confusion comes from whether or not the Vietnamese blue treefrog and the Chinese flying frog are the same species, as I have seen both labeled Rhacophorus or Polypedates dennysi, even though neither looks like the other.

[Paul Rust]

Yes I got turned around, getting late. I don't know how to answer that either. Yet

[Paul Rust]

Here is the best I can get for now. I know you know this already but these two are synonyms for the Chinese Gliding Frog, which looks very similar to a Whites Tree Frog. We already knew that too.

• Rhacophorus dennysi Blanford, 1881
• Polypedates dennysi Stejneger, 1925

If we accept this as settled we can try and unravel the Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog problem.
I found reference that suggests this is a Vietnamese captive bred Chinese Gliding Frog. The problem is they don't look the same, as you mentioned. The only other thing I can find is that R.dennysi and P.dennysi both mean Chinese Gliding Frog however, Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog points to nothing except what people selling and buying them are calling them, P.dennysi. If I strip out the trade references and try to find it's Taxonomy it doesn't exist. At this point I have to believe it is a hybrid or color morph of something that has been artificially created for the pet trade and has yet to be identified. Sorry but this is as close as I can get with the lack of information to be had. Have you found anything else that I may have missed?

[spooky]

I did a little internet research last night, and I too couldn't find a definate 'proper' name for this little guy.
I'm going to get some pictures as soon as I can get rid of my OH as he doesn't know I've bought him yet...... I managed to sneak him into the house and set up a tank without him noticing! Don't think I'd get away with doing a photo shoot without OH noticing!!! Muahahahaha!!!!!

Oh and Kurt, my smiling face has missed you all very much!!

[Paul Rust]

I did a little internet research last night, and I too couldn't find a definate 'proper' name for this little guy.
I'm going to get some pictures as soon as I can get rid of my OH as he doesn't know I've bought him yet...... I managed to sneak him into the house and set up a tank without him noticing! Don't think I'd get away with doing a photo shoot without OH noticing!!! Muahahahaha!!!!!

Oh and Kurt, my smiling face has missed you all very much!!

Would love to see pictures. Whatever it's called they are cuties.

[Kurt]

Paul, you more than me at this point. I think you meant to say is that the white-lipped treefrog, Litoria infrafrenata looks like the Chinese flying frog and not the White's. My best guess is that maybe the Vietnamese blue is either a juvenile of R. dennysi or a completely different species all together. Time to hit the books, but sadly I do not have field guides for Asia.

Katie on behalf of everybody -

[Paul Rust]

Katie on behalf of everybody -

Cute, lol. That's correct Kurt, White Lipped Tree Frog, thanks. At around 1:30am they all look the same.