I have returned from NE Herp and they n fact do Not carry grays. Sry. But on a lighter note, another great experience with Jess and everyone there. I walked out of there with my online order, more stuff I decided to buy, and a few extra things Jess wouldn't charge me for. . Boy I have to slow down or I'm gonna have some great looking empty Vivs and no cash for frogs. Lol