I am totally on board with you Jeff. The main statement i am trying to make is that you really dont have to search far and wide to get your feeders exactly what they need. Just like you said Kale and spinach are far superior to what they can find on the forest floor. I mean just look back at some threads that people post. They are asking where to find things such as calcium and protein when they can find something sufficient in something that everyone believes is low in nutrition such as lettuce. All i am doing is trying to rule out the need of vitamins and nutrition outside of things you can find in your fridge. I mean think about it carrots are a super food along with spinach, broccoli squash and Kale(which is the king of veggies there is nothing out there that we can buy veggie wise that surpasses kale in nutrition.) We already giving them everything they need and more. So this hunt for answers of things we should add to our bins to improve our feeders growth and reproduction are much simpler then most may think.

I also agree with you on the protein experiment. I don't expect to see any differences in my research. But that is exactly what i am looking for. Also death rate based off that info you sent me. And i am going to take your advice and instead of two i will do six, 3 with nothing but veggies and 3 with a higher protein diet such as dog food and other high protein foods. I will keep them all together in a bin that i already have a constant temp and humidity.

Now i also agree that you can not compare a roaches digestive system to ours or even another decomposing insect the same size as a roach. I just used that as an example to help other readers to help them better understand the points i am trying to make. If people have something to compare then what i am saying starts to make more sense then if i were to give a scientific analysis. And also about the grass nutrition yes you are also right about that, cows don't only eat grass they eat a large array of different foods and yes they are picky. But something as simple as grass can provide more nutrion then most people are lead to believe especially if we are talking about a very small insect that may require a fraction in the thousandths of what we need. For anyone else who is reading this yes veggie items in your fridge have much more nutritional value then grass.

I know for a fact that oranges improve breeding significantly and i will be honest i have no idea why. Moister is a point that has been brought up and i think we all can agree that is a factor but i do know that it isn't the only thing. It may be calcium, it may be vitamins contained in oranges. If anyone does have an idea please feel free to share. I have also read that grapefruit also has the same effect. This i have not tried so i would have no idea. I have tried lemons and limes thinking it may be citric acid or something else that an acidic fruit may share. But even if there is nothing else in the bins to eat they barely even take a nibble at them.