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    If you give the worm pieces a little nudge with some tongs or a spoon, they should wiggle. Feed right after cutting them and the piece will wiggle a bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    If you give the worm pieces a little nudge with some tongs or a spoon, they should wiggle. Feed right after cutting them and the piece will wiggle a bunch.
    just took him out to the table =/ he threw up some yellow liquid =( I dont know what to think.

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    THAT does not sound good, yellow usually means stomach bile, poor little man. Wish I could help you with this, but I don't have the knowledge or expierience with this. I'm just a sympathetic reader.
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    Hi Lisa,
    I read your entire post # 93.

    A pedi or honey dip will not hurt him.
    This little guy is a fighter!

    He was eating very steadily with us for a week. He ate about 2 every other day or every other 2 days, but then he started throwing them back up. Our vet had suggested we give it to him an extra week when we called him since he still seemed a little bloated and not pooping. He said it shouldnt hurt him. When he started going into overtime with the baytril was when we noticed the throwing up.


    His symptoms of anorexia and regurgitation( vomiting) need to be discussed with your vet. I would resume the baytril ( as recommended) , or call the vet on Monday. He is not throwing up because he is full. The vomiting is an important symptom to talk to the vet about as it could be a symptom of other or another parasite(s)?

    Hes been in that hospital tank for at least 3 weeks now......and no poop
    This could be because he is not eating and / or not digesting his food?

    What other antibiotic treatment was given besides baytirl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Hi Lisa,
    I read your entire post # 93.

    A pedi or honey dip will not hurt him.
    This little guy is a fighter!

    He was eating very steadily with us for a week. He ate about 2 every other day or every other 2 days, but then he started throwing them back up. Our vet had suggested we give it to him an extra week when we called him since he still seemed a little bloated and not pooping. He said it shouldnt hurt him. When he started going into overtime with the baytril was when we noticed the throwing up.


    His symptoms of anorexia and regurgitation( vomiting) need to be discussed with your vet. I would resume the baytril ( as recommended) , or call the vet on Monday. He is not throwing up because he is full. The vomiting is an important symptom to talk to the vet about as it could be a symptom of other or another parasite(s)?

    Hes been in that hospital tank for at least 3 weeks now......and no poop
    This could be because he is not eating and / or not digesting his food?

    What other antibiotic treatment was given besides baytirl?

    Lynn
    He was not given anything other than the baytril. the vet was hoping to get a fecal after the initial bacterial infection was over. I will call the vet again. I am starting to think perhaps he doesnt know whats wrong with my little guy =/ We did resume the baytril for most of that week and only stopped a 2 days short (when we got scared) so he nearly had an extra full week of the baytril as prescribed making a total of 2 weeks and 5 days on the baytril. The only reason we decided to stop was because we thought maybe that was why he was throwing up. Anyone know from any other threads what would cause the vomiting? Is it definitely a parasite because then I feel bad we did not press for the medication for that. He mentioned he may have a parasite but he wanted us to get a fecal sample before we just start putting him on other medications. Unfortunately..it doesnt look like we are going to be able to get a fecal from him =( I feel like I am at a standstill.

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    Hi Lisa,
    I'm so sorry you are having so much trouble with this poor little guy You're a trooper!

    I believe the vet may treat him for parasites without a fecal ?
    I can understand why the vet suggested to keep going , perhaps thinking a few more days may make that difference?
    I'm sorry I do not know if vomiting is a symptom of the Baytril? I suppose it's possible?
    Baytril is a strong antibiotic. It's simple - either it works or it doesn't. Perhaps that is the vet is trying to determine?
    So keeping in touch with your vet is a great idea as I'm sure the vet will know what to do next.
    Especially when kept up to date regarding how your frog is currently doing.
    Can you email your vet? If so, this is a great way to give precise /dated/ details.
    Plus the vet can ponder on the information you provide.

    I am, however, certain vomiting is a symptom of more than one type of a parasitic infestation.
    Other symptoms could include less activity, no appetite , and even blood in the poop
    One type of parasite called nematodes initially causes diarrhea. If left untreated, the infestation can spread to the lungs and cause respiratory distress.

    His antibiotic could be changed also?
    There is another ( Metronidizole ) that will simulate his appetite.

    I have ( under a vets recommendation) used metro and panacur ( parasitic treatment) at the same time to treat a black eyed tree frog. Initially it was done WITHOUT a fecal because the frog was so sick. I had to force feed this frog and use reptiboost for 7 weeks. I can sympathize with you; this is hard work.

    Keep us posted
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    Hi everyone. Just got off the phone with the vet. He is mixing us some Metronidizole. He instructed us to give it orally..which should be fun. He warned us again that this medicine given orally could cause him to throw up his stomach =/. I was wondering if you guys can look at the pictures I posted last time. Did it look like the spots came back to you? They've disappeared again I believe. Was he just changing colors? What do you think? Is it only the green spots if they stay on him for weeks? because that never happened =/ I hope I did not give the wrong information when I started this post. I am just concerned because I was told to use bleach on his real cage so his friend Koko did not get the infection..which he hasn't. We never used bleach on his hospital tank when he felt better =(. We've been using soap and water. We did however change his paper towel everyday and used very hot water when rinsing. I am hoping that we did not mess up! We are trying so hard.

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