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    Quote Originally Posted by Malduroque View Post
    Dearest Crystal6,

    Again in trying to prove something exists as opposed to not existing, the burden of proof falls squarely on you (geez, this sounds just like the atheist vs god debate).

    For instance, I did a search on 'frogs and differential calculus' and 'frogs can't do differential calculus'. I found nothing aside from calculus tutoring sites (for humans I presume). So, by your thinking, I was unable to prove that frogs can't do differential calculus equations?

    I ask you to read Kurt's most recent post in this thread. Kurt is a legitimate Herpetologist. Is that scientific enough for ya'?

    Finally, for someone who claimed to not want to argue the topic, you've certainly remained quite active in the argument.
    *groan* Okay first: Do I think frogs get lonely? No. No I do not. Do I think frogs can feel SOME emotions? Yes. Yes I do. Do I think they feel warm fuzzy feelings towards me? No. And neither does Kurt from what I can tell. So there is no arguing to be done. Unless you want to debate which emotions they can feel, if any. You seem to think they can feel none, Kurt seems to think they can feel some. (Like lust or hunger.) I say maybe they can also feel satisfaction after they eat. But whatever! People can think whatever they want because without proof it's just opinionated stuff. Unless Kurt says "here's a link to an article about this" I say, who cares who thinks what?

    And that's really all I have left to say on this matter. I'm not here to prove frogs can do ANYTHING and apparently neither are you. So since I'm not looking to prove what they can or can't do and you aren't, why argue? No offense meant! I shut up now!

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    Here's a link to an article about this subject - http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-lonely-2.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal6 View Post
    *groan* Okay first: Do I think frogs get lonely? No. No I do not. Do I think frogs can feel SOME emotions? Yes. Yes I do. Do I think they feel warm fuzzy feelings towards me? No. And neither does Kurt from what I can tell. So there is no arguing to be done. Unless you want to debate which emotions they can feel, if any. You seem to think they can feel none, Kurt seems to think they can feel some. (Like lust or hunger.) I say maybe they can also feel satisfaction after they eat. But whatever! People can think whatever they want because without proof it's just opinionated stuff. Unless Kurt says "here's a link to an article about this" I say, who cares who thinks what?

    And that's really all I have left to say on this matter. I'm not here to prove frogs can do ANYTHING and apparently neither are you. So since I'm not looking to prove what they can or can't do and you aren't, why argue? No offense meant! I shut up now!
    Ok, let's run down the list:
    (Opinions drawn from reading and my own observations and common sense)
    Do frogs feel -
    Hunger- yes, but that's a drive, not an emotion
    Lust - ditto
    Fear - yes, not just in reacting to an immediate threat, but they will hide in anticipation of that threat after a time
    The above are standard survival tools without which most species would cease to exist

    Happy - No
    Love - No
    Lonely - No
    Affection - No
    Sad - No
    Embarrassment - No

    "Unless Kurt says "here's a link to an article about this" I say, who cares who thinks what?"
    Hmm, you don't feel that there are folks out there who know more than you do on a subject, like a professional in the field? I sure hope you don't bring that attitude to your physician. 'Doctor, I don't accept your diagnosis without a valid link.'

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    I shut up now! For I feel people should be allowed to believe what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal6 View Post
    I shut up now! For I feel people should be allowed to believe what they want.
    Even if they are wrong...

    Is there anything that says "I'm through here" better than a snappy icon? Thing is, you've resigned from this thread three times already. Seems like you're one of those gotta get the last word types.

    Yes, this is America where, as Carl Sagan pointed out, newspapers have at most an occasional article on astronomy but virtually all have a daily astrology column. So yes, you're free to worship at the altar of superstition and pseudo-science to your hearts content. The earth is flat, humans never landed on the moon, the earth is 4000 years old, sasquatch, yetti and the loch ness monster, haunted houses, our president is a muslim and not a US citizen, AIDS was a curse sent from god, genies hang out in old lamps and there are frogs that hold backgammon tournaments on Tuesday nights.

    Kind of makes you proud to be an American.

    Mal

    PS Never play poker with a tree frog, they have sticky fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malduroque View Post
    Seems like you're one of those gotta get the last word types.
    Who wants the last word?
    Last edited by Kurt; March 14th, 2010 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malduroque View Post
    there are frogs that hold backgammon tournaments on Tuesday nights.
    No wonder I keep missing it. I thought it was on Thrusday nights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malduroque View Post
    Kind of makes you proud to be an American.
    Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

    Seriously, I think its time to lay this issue to rest. I think people are becoming a little too emotionally (no pun intended) involved with it.

    By the way, I have the last word, unless John wants it.

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