new WTF owner need help with humidity

[EJT97]

You can add the three together and the 4th unless the 4th is significantly shorter, the WTFs will eat smaller, living things

[shatrar]

You can add the three together and the 4th unless the 4th is significantly shorter, the WTFs will eat smaller, living things

I realize that, it would be physically impossible for any of the 3 to eat the 4th. He is not that much smaller. Any suggestions on my questions?

[EJT97]

For the tank you should get the biggest your budget will allow you. Also, for the top you would need fresh air, maybe use a mesh top and I don't have a mister so I can't help you with that sorry!

[shatrar]

Thank you. I've just ordered the Mist King system. Now to figure out the rest

[EJT97]

Good luck

[HerpDerp]

Welcome to the Frog Forum, Michelle! (which is my name as well lol)

I just saw this post today! What you have right now is a good temporary tank until you can get a bigger one. I would definitely recommend the larger exo-terra. You can make a false bottom for that one and truly perfect it before you put your frogs in it. I highly recommend visiting the vivarium subforum to get some good suggestions on how to make it look great.

A few comments/suggestions for you:
1. I wouldn't bother with feeding meal worms at all. They can cause impaction if fed too much and don't really hold much nutritional value (to my knowledge anyways).

2. Definitely get some live plants in there. They are more ascetically pleasing and help a ton with humidity. Scott had some great suggestions. Pothos does awesome in a vivarium and will provide lots of cover. I would also suggest a snake plant (not sure of scientific name). My frogs LOVE to climb on the tall, stiff leaves.

3. Get rid of the sphagnum moss. It DOES help with humidity but can also pose quite the impaction risk if it is swallowed. If you want some moss in there to help with humidity I suggest regular sheet moss (not sure of exactly what it's called?).

4. Your temps seem a bit low. I use a ceramic heat emitter that does a great job in my 18x18x24. A 150w with a dimmer to control power would do wonders. I would steer away from under tank heaters since they don't do very much and tend to burn out quickly. Insulating your tank will help with heat as well. Maybe cardboard on three sides of the tank? And if you use plastic wrap on half of the top of the tank it will help hold in heat and moisture.

I hope this helps!

[shatrar]

Hi Michelle! I already took out the moss, it made too much of a hiding place for the crickets anyway. I'll toss the mealworms too. And I moved the tank even further from the fireplace. I'll wrap the tank with a towel or something for now until I find a better option. Does the ceramic heat emitter sit on top of the tank too?

I'm currently using a regular spray bottle for them, I'd like to get a misting bottle but the reviews on amazon are pretty bad. What do you use? Hopefully the Mist King doesn't take too long to arrive. And I can use that in the temp tank until I set up the new larger one.

Regarding the new set up, I'm looking at either the 24x18x24 (will this be big enough for them?) or the 24x18x36 (which may be too big for our living room) Exo Terra. I haven't really seen other brands besides this and the Zoo Med, which is too small. What other options are out there? I'd really like to have the front opening doors, after just a few days of lifting that water dish out the top of our aquarium I can tell I need something more convenient, especially so my daughter can start caring for them (they are supposed to be hers ).

I'll do live plants when I do the larger set up. Maybe I'll stick a little potted plant in there now. Question about the live potted plant, I'm assuming the plant soil they come in will be a no no for the frogs, what can I use that would be ok?

Thank you! Michelle