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    Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
    Check for any skin damages. also how do you feeding him?

    I would continue with warm soaks, hope he'll pull it through, but that all awfully sounds similar to what I had not long ago, hope it is not.
    What was wrong with your frog????

    I feed him gut loaded crickets with calcium, by hand or tongs so I no how much he eats... I dont know if he has pooped recently as he is housed with 3 other grey tree frogs until quarantine tonight. And they have 3 Exo Terra 2.0 UVB bulbs 2 are relatively new so the UVB should be good.... I can't get him too eat again tonight =(

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    Bump!

    Hes still alive hasn't moved since him honey bath last night and breathing might be slower than usual... think hes sleeping...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae View Post
    What was wrong with your frog????
    mycobacteriosis both didn't make it, both were WC. it is like tuberculosis for humans, but looks differently, that is why I asked if Pippin has any lesions or anything else on a skin.

    good sign that he pulled it through the night, i would soak him some more today, but in pedialyte with honey this time. Keeping my fingers crossed for him.
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    Out of 70 views I get 1 person commenting T_T... where's Grif and Uncle Chester and Heatherannne and all the other saviors of this forum T_T?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
    mycobacteriosis both didn't make it, both were WC. it is like tuberculosis for humans, but looks differently, that is why I asked if Pippin has any lesions or anything else on a skin.

    good sign that he pulled it through the night, i would soak him some more today, but in pedialyte with honey this time. Keeping my fingers crossed for him.
    No leasions, just bloated and shinny like he needs to shed and darker than usual but he often looks darker at night...

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    Default Re: HELP ASAP! Pippin isn't moving!

    how is he now? any better? Michelle has good point - do you dust crickets and how?

    What you can do for vet though is to contact dr. frye, if you need any meds you can just contact any clinic near by, explain what do you need and get from them.

    where in Ontario do you live, I'm pretty sure there are some very good herp vets around there. unfortunately they might be off for holidays.
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    The yes I gut load and dust my crickets.

    Dr Frye doesn't ship to Canada

    Closest herp to me that I have found is over an hour away and I don't drive on the highways that I would have to take there.

    This will be night 3 without eating. He has not moved at all since last night and I have given him 2 baths, one last night and one this afternoon.

    Hard to tell if he is even still alive =( I saw him blink around 5pm

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    Default Re: HELP ASAP! Pippin isn't moving!

    I'm sorry Rae. I don't come to the Tree Frog Forum very often.

    Is there any skin discoloration? Blisters or cysts? Bloating can be caused by Toxicosis(Toxing Out Syndrome), over feeding, kidney failure, edema, and Liver cancer.

    Paralysis can also be caused by many things including Chytrid.

    Answer these questions and repost the answers here. http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...enclosure.html


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    Default Re: HELP ASAP! Pippin isn't moving!

    Rae, sorry about your frog. This may come too late, but losing control of the back legs could be a sign of metabolic bone disease/lack of calcium. I know you dust and gut load your crickets but there's any number of variables affecting how much of a given nutrient is actually absorbed by an individual frog. I think someone already mentioned the pedialyte/honey bath. You could also mix that solution with some of that calcium supplement you use to dust your crickets. Exoterra has a liquid electrolyte and D3 supplement sold here (first item). I've never used it though, but it seems like it could be helpful for treating calcium problems.

    The bloating could be due to impaction. Is there any risk of that in their enclosure? Finally, there's a chance all of this is caused by a disease or infection, and if so, there may be no alternative but to seek help from a vet - though you've already indicated that this is a problem. A last resort might be antibiotics like metronidazole or duramycin, but you need to find a suitable concentration and dosage. I may be able to help with the research, if it comes to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae View Post
    I feed him gut loaded crickets with calcium, by hand or tongs so I no how much he eats... I dont know if he has pooped recently as he is housed with 3 other grey tree frogs until quarantine tonight. And they have 3 Exo Terra 2.0 UVB bulbs 2 are relatively new so the UVB should be good.... I can't get him too eat again tonight =(
    Sorry more people aren't commenting on this . I think it's just a tough call because it sounds so vague and general. It could be anything really. You should try posting a picture of the frog showing the condition of the skin etc. Now by "gut loaded with calcium" do you mean you gut load them with calcium rich food and that's it or do you regularly dust the crickets with calcium and vitamin supplements? If you don't do this then it could be some sort of deficiency. That's all I can think of. You may also want to try contacting Dr. Frye. I believe his contact info is posted in the articles section of this forum. I hope your frog gets better soon!

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