MOTW - Aug 26- Sept 1 2012 - MrZoggs

[mrzoggs]

Congrats on your victory over your addiction Ryan. I have a friend who has been battling addiction for a few years now. It is good to learn more about you.

I too like Tool, Chevelle, and a few Incubus songs. Like Bolisnide I grew up around 80s hair metal though. My dad always listened to Motley Crew, Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath, and there are so many more that I'm not going to list them . Keeping frogs is an excellent and very fulfilling hobby as you most certainly have discovered and I'm glad you did. Now you also have many people go share your joy of the hobby with.

Im so sorry to hear about you friend. It is a lifetime struggle. It is a disease with no cure but it can be managed. If you ever have any questions feel free to PM me. My addiction was with the worst possible ones that can come to your head. Im trying to be as PG rated as possible

Man its so great to hear that people who love frogs, also love good music hahaha. This is a great website full of wonderful people. Im very happy to be a part of it. You sir have taught me a lot along with many others. I cannot thank all of you enough.

[GrifTheGreat]

Im so sorry to hear about you friend. It is a lifetime struggle. It is a disease with no cure but it can be managed. If you ever have any questions feel free to PM me. My addiction was with the worst possible ones that can come to your head. Im trying to be as PG rated as possible

Man its so great to hear that people who love frogs, also love good music hahaha. This is a great website full of wonderful people. Im very happy to be a part of it. You sir have taught me a lot along with many others. I cannot thank all of you enough.

Thank you

I've been helping my friend for almost the entire ordeal, but now I work a lot and live farther away than I used to so I'm not around as much. I do keep in contact with him and he just got a job so fingers crossed.

I'm glad I can help. I do my best to assist anyone however I can. You're very welcome.

[Deac77]

congrats mrzoggs!!! (sorry im late lol)

[Jenste]

Tuesday, tell us about your amphibians.

How you came to keep them, mistakes/learning curves, species kept, breedings, how you found Frog Forum etc....we heard enough about you on Monday, let us hear about them frogs!

[Jenste]

I also want to commend you on beating your addiction. One of my uncles has been battling for the majority of my life and sadly has not yet found the strength to move on. HE also suffers from being Bi-Polar which greatly affects his ability to refrain from using. He has been to numerous clinics around the country and always does well for a few months upon returning, the he slides right back down.

It is sad to watch as he is always the nicest guy whether on or off drinking. He just can't get out of his own way.

[mrzoggs]

Drinking is a tough one. What makes it so hard is that alcohol is easily available. Plus its legal. The only thing that was able to stop me was jail time, and when i got out i had drug tests every week sometimes twice a week. If i would of failed i would of went back in. The only thing i know that tests for alcohol is a ankle bracelets and Im sure hes probably not going to do that :/ I am very sorry to hear that. If you ever have any questions about it or need help with anything let me know.


Well since i was little, I have always loved lizards, fish, etc. I got my first frog when I was very young. I was too young to even remember how old I was XD All i remember was it was a fire belly toad and it died. Since then I have had bearded dragons and a water dragon. After I got clean, I had to find hobbies in other things. I tried a fish tank and soon after realized I am not a fish guy. I got some pretty gold fish and they ended up also dying. After that, I saw some frogs at petsmart and was very close to buying them. While I was looking around at everything I needed, I quickly changed my mind. I did not want those little fire bellies at petsmart, I wanted a red eyed tree frog. I quickly came home and did reasearch on them. After researching and searching for a good deal I ended up purchasing 2. Within a week, one of them died. I didnt realize they were field collected until after this happened and I feel like that was the cause of its death. The one that lived has grown to be nice and big. He calls EVERY night and til this day it puts a smile on my face. I ended up buying him a friend a few months ago hoping for a female. I bought it from a local pet store who has more exotic type animals. Since then, I cannot figure out if its a male or female. It is the same size as the male but doesnt call. They were acting sick and I sent in the fecals and found out they had hookworms. This was probably coming from the one that was field collected. I got some panacur and have been giving it to them for over a month and a half now. They seem to be doing great. They are eating well and growing like weeds. After I started my panacur with them I found a definite female on craigslist and purchased her. She sits in her tank by herself every day fat as ever and is just waiting for a couple males to sing to her and make some babies. I cannot wait.
Now a few days ago I bought my first Poison Dart Frogs. I fell in love with them after going to another website to learn about building vivs. They are varaderos and have a ton of personality. I went to pick up 3 for me and 3 for my dad and ended up coming home with an extra one for me It is only 6 days out of water.Now they can compete with the red eyes on who can lay eggs the fastest hehe. I just really want to expand my frogging. Eggs are the next step.
I am very happy to have stumbled across this website when searching about frogs. It is full of amazing people. You guys(and girls) are like family to me. Frogs keep me going back to old habits so having a family of froggers to talk to help a ton. Now I just wish we were all closer together so we could at least have a cook out every once in a while hehe.

[Heatheranne]

Red eyes are so beautiful! They are my favorite! Not to encourage more frogs , but there are also albinos .



Congrats on the darts!

It IS like a big family here. Good advice, good friends, good times. . A BBQ would be a blast!

[KingCam]

Dude, awesome music selection ya got there!! Glad to meet you, buddy. We sound a lot alike. Tool & APC rock! Do you ever listen to Mushroomhead? I saw them live a year or so ago, they kicked serious ace

[Pluke]

Nice frogs man, Those Varaderos are some of the coolest Darts and the Red Eye's were always a favorite of mine as a child. Those albino's look awesome.

[GrifTheGreat]

Drinking is a tough one. What makes it so hard is that alcohol is easily available. Plus its legal. The only thing that was able to stop me was jail time, and when i got out i had drug tests every week sometimes twice a week. If i would of failed i would of went back in. The only thing i know that tests for alcohol is a ankle bracelets and Im sure hes probably not going to do that :/ I am very sorry to hear that. If you ever have any questions about it or need help with anything let me know.


Well since i was little, I have always loved lizards, fish, etc. I got my first frog when I was very young. I was too young to even remember how old I was XD All i remember was it was a fire belly toad and it died. Since then I have had bearded dragons and a water dragon. After I got clean, I had to find hobbies in other things. I tried a fish tank and soon after realized I am not a fish guy. I got some pretty gold fish and they ended up also dying. After that, I saw some frogs at petsmart and was very close to buying them. While I was looking around at everything I needed, I quickly changed my mind. I did not want those little fire bellies at petsmart, I wanted a red eyed tree frog. I quickly came home and did reasearch on them. After researching and searching for a good deal I ended up purchasing 2. Within a week, one of them died. I didnt realize they were field collected until after this happened and I feel like that was the cause of its death. The one that lived has grown to be nice and big. He calls EVERY night and til this day it puts a smile on my face. I ended up buying him a friend a few months ago hoping for a female. I bought it from a local pet store who has more exotic type animals. Since then, I cannot figure out if its a male or female. It is the same size as the male but doesnt call. They were acting sick and I sent in the fecals and found out they had hookworms. This was probably coming from the one that was field collected. I got some panacur and have been giving it to them for over a month and a half now. They seem to be doing great. They are eating well and growing like weeds. After I started my panacur with them I found a definite female on craigslist and purchased her. She sits in her tank by herself every day fat as ever and is just waiting for a couple males to sing to her and make some babies. I cannot wait.
Now a few days ago I bought my first Poison Dart Frogs. I fell in love with them after going to another website to learn about building vivs. They are varaderos and have a ton of personality. I went to pick up 3 for me and 3 for my dad and ended up coming home with an extra one for me It is only 6 days out of water.Now they can compete with the red eyes on who can lay eggs the fastest hehe. I just really want to expand my frogging. Eggs are the next step.
I am very happy to have stumbled across this website when searching about frogs. It is full of amazing people. You guys(and girls) are like family to me. Frogs keep me going back to old habits so having a family of froggers to talk to help a ton. Now I just wish we were all closer together so we could at least have a cook out every once in a while hehe.

It's so great to learn more about you! Isn't it just the most amazing thing listening to the call?!? It doesn't matter how bad a day I have, as soon as one of mine starts calling I have to smile! I love best of all that they know our voices. Mine almost Never call if there is someone else in the house!

This is certainly an awesome site. It is wonderful to be able to share the love of frogs with other people. Most people just don't get it!

[mrzoggs]

Red eyes are so beautiful! They are my favorite! Not to encourage more frogs , but there are also albinos .



Congrats on the darts!

It IS like a big family here. Good advice, good friends, good times. . A BBQ would be a blast!

Nice pictures! I want some albinos so bad :P I wish we all lived in the same state! lol.

Dude, awesome music selection ya got there!! Glad to meet you, buddy. We sound a lot alike. Tool & APC rock! Do you ever listen to Mushroomhead? I saw them live a year or so ago, they kicked serious ace

Yeah I listen to them too. I have a sweet apc tattoo. Type in A perfect circle tattoo on google. Its the one with the 3 in the middle. And the letters around that say "right in two"

Nice frogs man, Those Varaderos are some of the coolest Darts and the Red Eye's were always a favorite of mine as a child. Those albino's look awesome.

Thanks bud. thats what i thought about the varaderos. Im glad I got them. I was only going to get 3 but i was feeling froggy and ended up with 4

It's so great to learn more about you! Isn't it just the most amazing thing listening to the call?!? It doesn't matter how bad a day I have, as soon as one of mine starts calling I have to smile! I love best of all that they know our voices. Mine almost Never call if there is someone else in the house!

This is certainly an awesome site. It is wonderful to be able to share the love of frogs with other people. Most people just don't get it!

Yeah people look at me with the weirdest face when i bring up frogs lol. Then dont understand how many people there are that are in love with frogs just like myself. I get excited like a little kid when mine call. Its my favorite. I cant wait to hear the varaderos call.

Now off to my softball game! Ill be home in a few hours

[KingCam]

Yeah I listen to them too. I have a sweet apc tattoo. Type in A perfect circle tattoo on google. Its the one with the 3 in the middle. And the letters around that say "right in two"

Epic! That's awesome, man. I don't have any ink yet, never could decide on anything I wanted on me permenently.

[mrzoggs]

softball got rained out :[

I wanted that tattoo for a long time. Im glad I got it though. It looks really sweet. Its big right in the center.

[Jenste]

Ok guys......you know what today is!

Wednesday, show and tell. Wow us with your pictures/videos/sound clips.

[mrzoggs]

Ok so I know that I've had Red Eyes longer than my Varaderos, but they are hard to get pictures of. They are going through treatment and they sleep all day so I havent had time to get any good shots. I just popped open the top since I heard him calling and took a couple. Usually they are all as bright as the first picture but you know how that goes once they start waking up. For some reason my female wanted to show off her leg :P That thing is LONG!!! You know what they say about long legs, more eggs!!!







Here are the varaderos. They are so fun to take pictures of. They love to show off.













This is the baby. He is a week out of water. He stays inside his cup. Hopefully he comes out to explore soon. The lady i bought him from said he would stay in there for a few days. Hes not old enough to come out.



buuuuuuuut I did get lucky and catch him his first time out



he went back in after a couple minutes. He was saying "uhhhh where are my springtails dad"

I also have this mantis. Its fun to watch her eat crickets. Pretty sure its a Chinese mantis. She is very laid back. Just eats her crickets and hangs upside down from the top. She was very dehydrated when I got her and hadnt had food or water for days. She was brought in with some boxes that were shipped to my step dads work. Now shes in a 10 gallon with some pepperomia and eco earth.



I would take pictures of my bugs but we would be here forever. I will take pictures of them upon request hehe. dwarf purple isopods, dwarf white isopods, giant orange isopods, fruit flies, tropical pink springtails, tropical white springtails, and dubias hehe. I got a bug factory going on in my room. Im sure

[GrifTheGreat]

Awesome pics!! You've got some beauties. The Varaderos are very cool!! I like where the baby is peeking out of the Brom.

[KingCam]

Fantastic! Photo day is always the best part of MOTW :P

I especially like your mantis! They are my very favorite insect. I currently have a baby chinese mantid in my living room :P

[mrzoggs]

Awesome pics!! You've got some beauties. The Varaderos are very cool!! I like where the baby is peeking out of the Brom.

Thanks man. Funny thing is that its an air plant. These guys are just so small. I see why they call them thumbnails now. Not sure how long it takes for a baby to leave the cup but Ive only seen him out the 1 time. I wish he would come out and explore. Hopfully soon.

Fantastic! Photo day is always the best part of MOTW :P

I especially like your mantis! They are my very favorite insect. I currently have a baby chinese mantid in my living room :P

They are fun. I wish they lived longer. It was neat to see it eat a whole cricket. It scarfed that thing down in no time.

[KingCam]

They are fun. I wish they lived longer. It was neat to see it eat a whole cricket. It scarfed that thing down in no time.

Yeah, it would be nice if they lasted longer than one season. Oh, you were right on the ID btw. Yours is a Chinese Mantid.

[Heatheranne]

Beautiful darts! I love the baby. It's great that you caught his first time out on camera .