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    Peat moss isn't like Sphagnum moss at all... it is actually ground up like the echo earth (or at least the bags of it I find at places like Lowe's are), I have the organic stuff I use for all my other critters. So there shouldn't be any more of an impaction problem with peat than there is with coco.
    The water IS treated, ALL of it.
    The only thing I need to change according to you is a dimmer.....I will do this and see if it helps.
    I will not get an under tank heater, after all the research ive done and discussions ive had with people, I have decided they are not a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jello737 View Post
    Peat moss isn't like Sphagnum moss at all... it is actually ground up like the echo earth (or at least the bags of it I find at places like Lowe's are), I have the organic stuff I use for all my other critters. So there shouldn't be any more of an impaction problem with peat than there is with coco.
    The water IS treated, ALL of it.
    The only thing I need to change according to you is a dimmer.....I will do this and see if it helps.
    I will not get an under tank heater, after all the research ive done and discussions ive had with people, I have decided they are not a good idea.
    Hmmm obviously you take my knowledge as being unreliable. I can assure you it is NOT, but if you don't want my advice I will not assist you any further and the reason why the moss is a risk is because it causes blockages in their intestinal tract due to them not being able to digest it. Coco fiber passes right through their bowels without issue.

    There are no problems with UTHs when used as directed. These are tropical frogs and need tropical temps. it very seldom reaches 75° in the rainforest. Your frog needs a constant heat source in which a UTH provides. As well as give them the proper temp gradient that they need. Night temps should be no lower than 77° to 78° and the ambient air temp should be no lower than 80 during the day. Max temp for entire enclosure should not go above 85° and humidity should be maintained at 80%.

    Perhaps you should purchase a Hygrotherm Temperature and humidity control unit and combine it with a Zoo Med Reptifogger to maintain the climate within the enclosure so you can be sure all environmental climate levels are accurate. They are not very expensive and work very well. I have 6 Pacman Frogs ranging from adult to young juvenile and I have no issues.

    I am just offering advice with experience. If you don't want to take it that's your decision, but you asked for help and that's what I'm trying to provide. If you don't believe it to be reliable then maybe you should ask other members to find if I'm a credible source for information about the care of these frogs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    I am just offering advice with experience. If you don't want to take it that's your decision, but you asked for help and that's what I'm trying to provide. If you don't believe it to be reliable then maybe you should ask other members to find if I'm a credible source for information about the care of these frogs.
    Grif has helped me with ALL my pacman concerns. All the info Grif has given you is accurate and correct! My advise is to listen to what Grif has told you.

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    i wasnt thinking your advice wasnt accurate or anything, sorry, didnt mean to offend you! I am working on making adjustments to meet all her needs.

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    ....................nope........gonna be a good little breeder and keep my fingers still.

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    ok, now that I have time to explain, sry for offending whomever, I am 2 months away from my wedding n going crazy and was trying to make my posts short n 2 the point. Apparently shoulda worded stuff better.
    I will be getting a dimmer for the lamps for sure. And will change the substrate asap. I will also get a UTH to stick to the side. My concern for those was just that I had been talking to someone just like you who is a long time breeder and such, he was telling me they can burn if they get too close to them, that worried me.
    I do have a temp and humididty gauge. As far as the temp range I gave above, the low of 75 i've only caught a couple times. Usually it is at 80. I check it as often as possible.
    Excuse my ignorance with anything, I am used to reptiles an inverts, this is my first amphibian.
    I REALLY appreciate any and all advice, like I said before, I wasnt trying to piss anyone off!!! :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jello737 View Post
    ok, now that I have time to explain, sry for offending whomever, I am 2 months away from my wedding n going crazy and was trying to make my posts short n 2 the point. Apparently shoulda worded stuff better.
    I will be getting a dimmer for the lamps for sure. And will change the substrate asap. I will also get a UTH to stick to the side. My concern for those was just that I had been talking to someone just like you who is a long time breeder and such, he was telling me they can burn if they get too close to them, that worried me.
    I do have a temp and humididty gauge. As far as the temp range I gave above, the low of 75 i've only caught a couple times. Usually it is at 80. I check it as often as possible.
    Excuse my ignorance with anything, I am used to reptiles an inverts, this is my first amphibian.
    I REALLY appreciate any and all advice, like I said before, I wasnt trying to piss anyone off!!! :/
    After you make the changes to the tank it will take a day or 2 for the frog to readjust to the environmental changes. I would also buy new gauges because humidity almost never stays at 75% to 80% when you have a heat lamp over the tank.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Hmmm obviously you take my knowledge as being unreliable. I can assure you it is NOT, but if you don't want my advice I will not assist you any further and the reason why the moss is a risk is because it causes blockages in their intestinal tract due to them not being able to digest it. Coco fiber passes right through their bowels without issue.
    Peat moss, or choir as it is sometimes called, passes through their bowels just as easily as coco fiber. Coco fiber is not digestable at all, and both coco fiber and peat can cause obstruction in large enough quantities.
    Peat moss is not ground up moss, its peat, taken from a swamp, and I had always thought it may get too acidic for Pacman frogs. Milled spagnum moss is ground up moss. I use long fiber moss, and I feed in a seperate tank.

    I dont know how cold your house is, but I dont really like to use, nor have i ever needed to use, UTH, no matter where on the tank they are placed. AT least not for frogs. I have just never seen a need to supply any supplementary heat source beyond a red incandescent on a reflector lamp.


    Can your frog see?

    Have you attempted to force feed at all?

    Another possibility is that the change in enviroment has triggered a state of semi dormancy in your frog. Is it shedding alot? Does it completely burrow itself?


    *didnt see the update before, glad the frog is now eating again. She may have entered into a state of semi dormancy.

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