Leaf Litter

[Yusil]

Well, I don't have a Pacman, but I think generally Frogs & Toads are quite fond, if not tolerant, of leaves and it provides them with a sense of security if they feel scared or just want a place to sleep privately.

When you say impaction, you mean incase he digests it? My frogs always take a chomp out of a leaf if the pursuit of a roach, but they usually spit the leaf matter out and somehow keep the roach in... But I think it could be harmful if he ate the whole thing, because to my knowledge, most frogs only eat and digest living matter, although the Giant Marine Toad[Cane Toad/Bufo Marinus] is an exception, eating dead & plant matter as well as numerous other things.

Someone with extensive knowledge and experience with these frogs would know better, but I don't think he'd go after it on purpose and digest it.

[GrifTheGreat]

When you say impaction, you mean incase he digests it? My frogs always take a chomp out of a leaf if the pursuit of a roach, but they usually spit the leaf matter out and somehow keep the roach in... But I think it could be harmful if he ate the whole thing, because to my knowledge, most frogs only eat and digest living matter.

Pacmans do often get foreign matter into their mouths when they lunge at food. They usually get a bite out of whatever is around the prey as well as the prey itself. Or sometimes they miss and just get dirt. They will try to wipe at the food while ingesting it, but most of whatever goes into their mouth gets swallowed. This is the reason that feeding on moss is so dangerous. They don't intentionally eat dirt or leaves or moss; it is more of a side effect of the way they hunt. Also, I'm fairly sure that Pacmans cannot spit or do any action like that. When they have something in their mouths that they don't like, they will open their mouths and wipe to see if it will fall out. But the majority of the time, whatever goes in the mouth is going to get swallowed.

[ramp]

I've used leaflitter in the past with snakes and Megophrys frogs with good succes. For sterilising I boil the leafs for 30 minutes. The rest is like Grif described. I only use oak leafs, preferably collected in the fall. I read somewhere that Magnolia could be toxic but can't find the sourse at the moment. An alternative to collected leaflitter are Catalpa leafs. These are sold at pet & fish stores for raising softwater shrimp. a bit expensive but worth it. Catalpa is a native tree to the rainforrest of South America and one of the main food of Iguana iguana, aka the green iguana. This is also one of the main food items given to iguana's on the farms where they are raised commercialy. I'm sure they would be perfect. I'm expecting some large import cornuta's from Surinam in a few weeks and am going to put them on these leafs so they can settle in. I will keep you posted. In the mean time take a look at this clip of C. cornuta in nature.

[Yusil]

Pacmans do often get foreign matter into their mouths when they lunge at food. They usually get a bite out of whatever is around the prey as well as the prey itself. Or sometimes they miss and just get dirt. They will try to wipe at the food while ingesting it, but most of whatever goes into their mouth gets swallowed. This is the reason that feeding on moss is so dangerous. They don't intentionally eat dirt or leaves or moss; it is more of a side effect of the way they hunt. Also, I'm fairly sure that Pacmans cannot spit or do any action like that. When they have something in their mouths that they don't like, they will open their mouths and wipe to see if it will fall out. But the majority of the time, whatever goes in the mouth is going to get swallowed.

Well, mines don't actually "spit" the foreign matter out, but it more or less just falls out. They usually grab their food with their hands, but in the event they just jump and eat it, additional things get in and they just open their mouths and whatever it is falls out, coated in slime, which I'm guessing is stomach acid.

I didn't realize all frogs didn't do this. We only have 2 types of Anura here so, but that sounds unlucky for a hungry pacman.

[GrifTheGreat]

Well, mines don't actually "spit" the foreign matter out, but it more or less just falls out. They usually grab their food with their hands, but in the event they just jump and eat it, additional things get in and they just open their mouths and whatever it is falls out, coated in slime, which I'm guessing is stomach acid.

I didn't realize all frogs didn't do this. We only have 2 types of Anura here so, but that sounds unlucky for a hungry pacman.

It's their voracious appetite that can be their downfall. You see when it comes to food they will inevitably eat some substrate. The only real way the get the soil out of their mouth is by shoving it out with their tongue and then wiping at it to try and remove it. They cannot and do not do this with food in their mouth. Once the food item is in their mouth whatever is in with it will be swallowed. They wipe at their mouth while prey is in there to force it to the center of the mouth for easier swallowing. The wiping may remove some soil, but I can assure you that what goes in with food is swallowed not removed or dropped. Sometimes pieces may fall out, but the majority goes down with the prey. This is why bark like Cyprus bedding and sphagnum/ wood chip bedding are not to be used. Rocks as well. The WILL accidentally eat it and die.

Common sends and playing it safe is the best way to care for your Pacman. Ask questions and research. :-)

[pac]

yea i know a guy on a different forum made a all natural tank with leaf litter coco husk he made it for a pair of cranwellis he said it was alot care