Collecting amphibians

[kueluck]

I don't get it. People think it's okay to just take a adult animal from the wild. Taking one adult reduces the population by hundreds, even thousands. The animal you just took beat the odds and made it to adulthood. PUT IT BACK!! Buy a c/b from a breeder or wait until you can find some tadpoles and raise them up yourself. Geez people, think before you take!! It's breeding season now, leave em' alone. Ok, I'm done.



p.s. and do your research & have your viv set up BEFORE you bring the animal home.

[flybyferns]

I don't get it. People think it's okay to just take a adult animal from the wild. Taking one adult reduces the population by hundreds, even thousands. The animal you just took beat the odds and made it to adulthood. PUT IT BACK!! Buy a c/b from a breeder or wait until you can find some tadpoles and raise them up yourself. Geez people, think before you take!! It's breeding season now, leave em' alone. Ok, I'm done.



p.s. and do your research & have your viv set up BEFORE you bring the animal home.

Go Girl !!!!! : encouragement:

[Kristen]

I agree so much!

[Heatheranne]

I agree also

[kueluck]

Some times it makes me wonder if humans are going to be the demises of frogs and toads before the chytrid fungus.

[GrifTheGreat]

Honestly it boggles my mind how many have died here that I know of and have tried to help save. I know that thousands die in captivity on a daily basis. We can only do so much for C/B and wild frogs. I plan on joining the Cincinnati Herpetological Society this summer. Might be best to get involved.

PS) It isn't always peoples fault that their frogs pass and even though people are ignorant sometimes they can't always be to blame. If someone wants to capture wild adults it better be a pair and there intentions better be to further the population by reintroducing their young into the wild otherwise like Gail said LEAVE THEM BE!!!!!!!!

[GrifTheGreat]

Also I don't agree with capturing wild Adults. I'm just saying that there had better be a good reason like for breeding purposes to further their population. I agree with Gail that it is best to go with raising wild Tads though rather than Adults.

[kueluck]

I so agree with re-poplution helpers. Last year I collected 5 toadlets, raised them for a few months then released 3 back where I originally got them from. Kept two which turned out to be male & female, so next year I hope to have tadpoles to raise then release. I wish I saw more posts with people breeding and releasing natives, so far I've only seen one.

[GrifTheGreat]

I guess its far too much work to breed for repopulating and that's why a lot of people shy away from it. I read the post in the Toad section where the member capture wild Toads and Brumated them for breeding and is now raising tadpoles. Good post.

[kueluck]

I check in on that thread once a week for updates. I can't wait to see the toadlets.

[GrifTheGreat]

I check in on that thread once a week for updates. I can't wait to see the toadlets.

I always love to see sucessful tad to toad/frog developement. I've been going back to it atleast once a week. There are hundreds of baby American Toadlets every year at my work. They hop in the back door of the shop and I take them outside Lol!. They are so cute and hard to catch. I work at a Fiberglass Factory so its is not safe for them to be anywhere in there. We do have an adult Toad that winters over in the actual shop in a large deep crack in the concrete floor. Lol! I guess Fiberglass doesn't affect their skin like it does ours. He has his burrow lined in the stuff Lol!

[kueluck]

Well maybe not always, but most of time it’s because people don’t do their research before they bring the animal home, or have the correct set up for them. OR when it’s sick or injured don’t take it in for medical attention. We’ve all seen this posted time and time again, and it just seems to be more frequent and this REALLY frustrates me and makes we want to just avoid the frog forum all together. But then someone will post awesome news or those incredible pictures and I’m suckered back in. [QUOTE=GrifTheGreat;107638]
PS) It isn't always peoples fault that their frogs pass and even though people are ignorant sometimes they can't always be to blame. QUOTE]

[Heatheranne]

I feel the same. It is saddening to hear some stories. Many stories actually. Thank goodness for the good ones .

I am thankful for the forum though, bc I have learned more here than anywhere else and I believe the education I've gathered here is why my frogs are doing so well .

I blame pet stores most for the lack of available care teaching. Being that they sell amphibians I think they should provide proper education sheets. They show off the pets and make people want to buy them, but then they don't provide what buyers need to know.

I also wish people would not impulse-buy and would do their research first.

Amphibians have specific care needs and people think they can just put them in a tank with dirt, water, and food and then they get sick or die. They come with responsibility, sometimes more than people anticipate. And I know our educated friends here dedicate a good amount of time to their frogs and toads.

Anyway....how do we teach people to research first? I wish I could buy-out all of the local pet stores and do it right. Not a likely wish though.

[kueluck]

Heather, people need to teach their kids responsibility, but then that’s a whole other forum. I guess we just hope and pray for the best. And as for pet stores…. I think it should be outlawed to sell live animals.

[Heatheranne]

Excellent point!

Hence the wanting to teach the 350 +/- kids at my daughter's school about preserving the natural outdoor habitats and frog and toad populations in the wild. It's something, anyway.

I am a big believer in saving wildlife.

My husband says I should have been a biologist/ conservationist/ vet . He's probably right .

[Kristen]

When I breed my frogs I always give twenty or so tadpoles to my little cousins school (she's in grade one) and they watch them grow and get feeding duties ect.to learn the responsibilities of haveing a frog. They always get really into it and always want to learn about how they can help frogs and how to make the frogs home as natural as possible. They learn why you shouldn't take frogs out of the wild and all, they really love it. They have made a pond out in the yard hoping to make a little frog habitat so they can see their natural environment. It's a reall great way for them to learn about it all

[Heatheranne]

That's wonderful!

[kueluck]

I’ve been told the same thing about choosing a profession, but if I were into any job that caused me to come in contact with some one who is teasing, abusing or killing animals, well I would end up in jail cause I would most likely cause them major bodily injuries.

Excellent point!

Hence the wanting to teach the 350 +/- kids at my daughter's school about preserving the natural outdoor habitats and frog and toad populations in the wild. It's something, anyway.

I am a big believer in saving wildlife.

My husband says I should have been a biologist/ conservationist/ vet . He's probably right .

[kueluck]

That is awesome, and I hope more people take the time to do what you’re doing.

When I breed my frogs I always give twenty or so tadpoles to my little cousins school (she's in grade one) and they watch them grow and get feeding duties ect.to learn the responsibilities of haveing a frog. They always get really into it and always want to learn about how they can help frogs and how to make the frogs home as natural as possible. They learn why you shouldn't take frogs out of the wild and all, they really love it. They have made a pond out in the yard hoping to make a little frog habitat so they can see their natural environment. It's a reall great way for them to learn about it all

[NatureLady]

To add my two cents worth to this post...I am beyond glad to read this!!!!

One of my first posts to this site was on a thread about a person whom lives in a neighboring state that had an endangered species (in our two states) in his care. I asked him if he understood that his state was against any form of buying, selling, owning, or anything having to do with the species. He got all bent out of shape at me and I felt alone in caring about animals well being and natural populations.

I am an environmental conservationist who works at a state nature center...hence NatureLady. I have to have all sorts of state and federal liscences to keep and collect animals for displays and educational purposes. I have a vet that is contracted for my center and he does a vet check on all of my husbandary and general animal health bi-annually. Plus I can rush to his office and he will see me at any hour needed. I also worked at a vet's office during my college years as a vet tech, so I am trained in how to detect abnormalities in my animals. My work is not child's play, although I think that some see it as such. I teach each person (young or old) that walks through the door that animals are wild for a reason and why we do not keep them as pets. I don't even have wild natives in my home. I have a cb wtf and other domestic creatures, but not wild babies!!!

Education starts young...caring is built from understanding...keep true to your feelings and teach in a manner that makes the person drop the emotional asspect of why they WANT WANT WANT.

Sorry if my rant has mispellings...no time to spell check it first