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    Kingcam in my opinion I do not trust the under-tank heat pads and my pac man burrows to escape the heat from what I've been told that would cause him to bury straight towards the heat instead.
    You could buy a low wattage heat cable/cord and experiment with that. They are incredibly adaptable. You could wrap it around a limb made to hang above his head, you could attach it to the side or back of your tank, you could even just lay one across the top of the tank to see if the heat goes far enough down to benefit your frog. What if you attached it to the bottom side of your lid? Then the heat would be trapped in the enclosure, but the source of the heat would be above head, and burrowing would still provide relief if he's trying to escape the heat.

    I have a few heat cables at home, and I honestly dunno what I'd do without them.

    Zoo Med 11.5 foot Repti Heat Cable

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    Oh I see whatch you mean. That is pretty awsome, I haven't seen those before surprisingly hah. I think I will experiment with that and see what I come up with! thanks Kingcam =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Froggiefressh View Post
    Oh I see whatch you mean. That is pretty awsome, I haven't seen those before surprisingly hah. I think I will experiment with that and see what I come up with! thanks Kingcam =)
    Good luck Let us know what you decide on and if it works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingCam View Post
    You could buy a low wattage heat cable/cord and experiment with that. They are incredibly adaptable. You could wrap it around a limb made to hang above his head, you could attach it to the side or back of your tank, you could even just lay one across the top of the tank to see if the heat goes far enough down to benefit your frog. What if you attached it to the bottom side of your lid? Then the heat would be trapped in the enclosure, but the source of the heat would be above head, and burrowing would still provide relief if he's trying to escape the heat.

    I have a few heat cables at home, and I honestly dunno what I'd do without them.

    Zoo Med 11.5 foot Repti Heat Cable
    Cameron, if Greg uses Heat cable he will have to hook it up to a thermostat. Heat tape and heat cables get really hotm much hotter than a UTH. That being said he should use a UTH, but you do NOT place it on the bottom of the tank. You place it on the side of the tank and be sure its the opposite side of the water dish. Heat tape and heat cable is best used for rack systems for multiple amphibian and reptiles not for just one tank. Too dangerous and you could cook your frog without a thermostat not to mention the glass will be much hotter from heat tape or heat cables than a UTH.

    Just buy a UTH and place it on the side of your tank Greg. You'll be better off and a lot less hastle.


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    Cameron, if Greg uses Heat cable he will have to hook it up to a thermostat. Heat tape and heat cables get really hotm much hotter than a UTH.
    We must be talking about two different heat cables. The one I linked to is only 15 watts.

    They come in 15 watts, 25 watts, 50 watts, 100 watts, and 150 watts. I'm sure you're right about needing a thermostat for the higher wattage ones. All I know is I use the 15 watt cables, plugged directly into the wall, and I've never had any problems with tanks overheating.

    I've had UTH's melt a plastic roach bin before, but my heat cables won't even melt electrical tape (that's what I use to secure them in place a lot of times).

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    Heat tape and heat cable is best used for rack systems for multiple amphibian and reptiles not for just one tank.
    In the case of the 50 foot cables, yes, I agree. However, the one I linked to only has 5 feet of hot cable. I can't see how anyone would use 5 ft of cable to heat more than one enclosure. In my opinion these small, low wattage cables were designed for single tank applications.

    HOWEVER! I don't want to be responsible for Greg cooking his frog, so maybe he should just take your advice and forget I said anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingCam View Post
    We must be talking about two different heat cables. The one I linked to is only 15 watts.

    They come in 15 watts, 25 watts, 50 watts, 100 watts, and 150 watts. I'm sure you're right about needing a thermostat for the higher wattage ones. All I know is I use the 15 watt cables, plugged directly into the wall, and I've never had any problems with tanks overheating.

    I've had UTH's melt a plastic roach bin before, but my heat cables won't even melt electrical tape (that's what I use to secure them in place a lot of times).

    In the case of the 50 foot cables, yes, I agree. However, the one I linked to only has 5 feet of hot cable. I can't see how anyone would use 5 ft of cable to heat more than one enclosure. In my opinion these small, low wattage cables were designed for single tank applications.

    HOWEVER! I don't want to be responsible for Greg cooking his frog, so maybe he should just take your advice and forget I said anything.
    A UTH melting electrical tape and a plastic tote was probably due to a malfunction. Normally they do not get that hot, but if you accidentally damage the really fine wireing that is contained within the UTH they will either stop working all together or overheat causing fires or as you said melt what they are attached to. That's why its reccomender to throw them away and not reuse them if you have removed them from an enclosure to place on another. The wireing inside is too easily damaged.

    The 15 watt cable is probably fine, but UTH are only like 4 to 8 watts and can become pretty hot so heat tape and cable of a higher wattage may become too hot. It is a good idea and I'm not bashing it Cam. Just better safe than sorry you know.


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    The 15 watt cable is probably fine, but UTH are only like 4 to 8 watts and can become pretty hot so heat tape and cable of a higher wattage may become too hot.
    Really? So under normal circumstances it would be okay to attach a UTH to a plastic storage bin? I've honestly been scared to use UTH's since that happened.

    I have another question for you, then. I have a wood enclosure. Well it's actually pressed particle board. Would it be okay to attach a UTH to the bottom of it? What's the best heating option for a wood enclosure?

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    It is a good idea and I'm not bashing it Cam. Just better safe than sorry you know.
    For sure, no worries. Life would be incredibly boring if I were right all the time :P

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    Yeah soo I'm kinda worried to try either one now. Cables can get too hot and UTH can cause fires..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Froggiefressh View Post
    Yeah soo I'm kinda worried to try either one now. Cables can get too hot and UTH can cause fires..
    If your enclosure is glass use UTH made by Zoo Med. Make sure you buy the right one for the size enclosure you have. They make them for many sizes. You should have no problems with a glass enclosure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingCam View Post
    Really? So under normal circumstances it would be okay to attach a UTH to a plastic storage bin? I've honestly been scared to use UTH's since that happened.

    I have another question for you, then. I have a wood enclosure. Well it's actually pressed particle board. Would it be okay to attach a UTH to the bottom of it? What's the best heating option for a wood enclosure?


    For sure, no worries. Life would be incredibly boring if I were right all the time :P
    You can only use a UTH for plastic if the packaging for the UTH says that it is safe for plastic. Wood is a definate no go. Particle board would be like throwing starter fluid on a hot coal Lol! Its just not a good idea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    You can only use a UTH for plastic if the packaging for the UTH says that it is safe for plastic. Wood is a definate no go. Particle board would be like throwing starter fluid on a hot coal Lol! Its just not a good idea.
    lol, that's what I figured. At one point I had considered cutting a big hole in the bottom and siliconing a piece of glass in so I can attach a heater.

    Okay, I'll stop hijacking the thread now. My bad, Greg :P

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