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    Very cool George. If you weren't in canuck-ville, i would see a trade in our future......lol i will look around for them. My littlin's could use something as a treat food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Very cool George. If you weren't in canuck-ville, i would see a trade in our future......lol i will look around for them. My littlin's could use something as a treat food.
    I give up where is "canuck-ville". I thought I knew Philly? Guess not.
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
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    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
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    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
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    Lynn, Canuck-ville is my very unpolitically correct way of saying Canada.....LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Lynn, Canuck-ville is my very unpolitically correct way of saying Canada.....LOL
    Oh I thought it was some place in Philly . How silly
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    don't fret, my wife of 21 years doesn't even understand all my euphemisms....LOL but luckily for me, George knows i have quite a bit of respect for him to not take it as an insult
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    Huh I'm not sure what that says about me then, I knew exactly where you were headed with that!

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    it says you are just as twisted as i am Will......must be in the name....LOL
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    Touche my friend, touche!

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    We northern cousins have no probs with using Canucks (or Canuck-ville). I use it quite often as I see it as an empowering nickname for us Canadians. Quite frankly it is sort of cool sounding.

    Fits in with who we are and what we gave you Americans (which you should be eternally grateful for lol) - maple syrup, hockey, butter tarts, toques, Newfoundland dogs, lacrosse (we're sorry for that one), snowmobiles, Superman, walkie talkies, smarties, the lightbulb, basketball (you can keep that one), beavertails (the pastry that is), poutine, Tim Hortons, the Beachcombers, the ability to use Eh and still be cool, two-fours (24 beers), insulin, Montreal smoked meat and bagels, and the finale is DUCT TAPE.

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    You lost me at Hockey. That is 1 of my other passions besides frogs! Go Maple Leafs!

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    Well, you guys gave us REAL hockey. You can have the garbage that they call hockey nowadays back....lol and you missed a few important ones. You guys also gave us SCTV, Molson and where would the egg mcmuffin be without that delicious ham?
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    Oh, and i forgot that you guys also gave us the lumberjack mystique which without the monty python troop would never have given us the lumberjack song!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Well, you guys gave us REAL hockey. You can have the garbage that they call hockey nowadays back....lol
    Actually I hate to say it but this season is awesome. I hated the whole lock out thing but in the end it has made the season better. Every game means more so the game play is intense. The teams are playing at a different level then usual. The only thing I am hating is no west vs east so my team is not coming to Co. this year. Oh well half season means the hockey package at a discounted price so LOTS and LOTS of hockey being watched in my house, and the beers are not $7 each!

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    $7?? your beers are cheap!!LOL last time i went, they were $8.50 honestly, i haven't seen one game this year. i played ice hockey as a youngster for 11 years and i love the game. the original game....lol too many rule changes to make the sport more "mainstream" and more corporate money. since they "greztky-fied" the sport, it's just not the same but, it seems that money does that to sports. it seems to find a way to remove the purity of them, it's sad really. i now prefer to go to minor league games. i feel as though i get a better game because there's a lot less money involved, salary wise, and the players have more heart and love for the game. it's not about money to them. just my opinion obviously....LOL
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    I agree with you about the minor league. There just are not enough televised. I liked that during the lockout the NHL channel filled their lineup with the minor league games. Amazing hockey, the stick work, passing and teamwork is so fun to watch. You just do not see that in the NHL like you should, everybody is always trying to make themselves look better for contract time! I agree the game is not what it used to be but out of all the sports out there Hockey and Football are the only ones I watch.

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    Observations:

    - The croton plants aren't coping very well with the environmental needs of the mantellas. The leaves have started to fall off. Been cutting them up and making debris with them. The Mantellas liked hanging out in the plants for some reason. The schefflera plants are doing very well but the mantellas don't appear to have any interest in them. Going to introduce a few other small tropical plants. The ivy that I introduced 2 weeks ago is doing well and the mantellas retreat to them whenever I am working on habitat maintenance. I may take a few cuttings and spread the ivy around more.

    - The Mantellas seem to like to burrow. One in particular will move around the moss / leaf bits and make a small cave to back up into. I haven't seen that type of behaviour in any of my other frogs / toads. I haven't noticed any territorial stance yet which suggests that they both may be female. They more or less hang out together in the left side of the habitat near the largest clump of ivy.

    - I, at this point, assume that they are females as I have heard no calling at all and have seen no territorial related behaviour. I haven't excluded the fact that I have only had them about a month, that I may not have introduced the correct dry / wet or light cycles in their habitat to trigger the mating, or maybe they are simply settling in still.

    - They seem to be doing ok on the larder beetle grubs and the periodic tiny meal worm. They have continued to ignore the pinhead crickets. I can't wait until a couple of more months when I can wild forage small bugs from my backyard. It is against the law here in Cape Breton to use any type of chemicals on our lawns so I know the pollution level is absent.

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    yeah, croton plants are tempermental when it comes to humidity. some like it, some don't. don't you just love how they burrow?? i have a nice sized coconut hide in my brown's temp enclosure and they would rather burrow under it than hang out inside it. go figure...LOL you are probably right on the money as far as no calling. if they aren't getting the proper climate changes, they will be silent. they only call when their rainy season starts. from what i understand, they are not the easiest to breed.

    i am really surprised that yours don't eat fruit flies. mine eat about 250 per sitting. granted, there are 8 mantellas in there, but still. that many fruit flies and they are gone within about 3 minutes. ravenous little buggers....LOL definitely some of the coolest creatures i have had the pleasure to own. folks can have the new world darts, i'm totally hooked on the old world ones
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    I am intending to try a few more plants to see if I can find the right combo for the terrarium, the climate needed and the mantella's interest level.

    Yeah, their eating habits are a bit unusual according to the norms. I am happy to see that they munch on the grubs but I am not certain if they are too fatty or not enough nutrition for them. If they are wild caught, which at present I am lead to believe they are, then they should eat whatever I would think as no preferential training has been in place regarding their diet.

    lol I do indeed find the burrowing interesting. I also had a small coconut hut in there but that was ignored. I made a few small caves out of slate but that too was ignored. They seemed to prefer moss and leaf debris so moss and leaf debris it will be.

    I have ordered two more mantellas which I am hoping will arrive within the next week or so. The pet store that I got the first two at indicated that they weren't available but they were tracking some down. I may try breeding springtails and introducing that into their diet as well.

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    i know there is very little captive breeding for mantellas, with the exception of the golden mantella, so the likelihood of our mantellas being wild caught is high. you should try contacting understory enterprises. they are in the land of the canuck. i hear they have mantella captive breeding programs. although, i am not sure what species they breed.

    springtails are a good idea. for some reason, i thought you said you tried 'tails with them, hence the reason i never mentioned them.
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    I contacted Understory and the frogs were cheap but to ship the frogs costed over $100. Outside my price league right at the moment as I am planning habitat upgrades for my tree frogs, fire belly newts and firebelly toads.

    I got a limited supply of springtails from someone else in the area and ran out in my attempt to introduce them to the mantella diet. I will be starting that shortly. Busy, busy, busy.

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