the ultimate (?) plant thread

[deranged chipmunk]

Thank Ariel, she did most of the legwork. nice job Ariel. Heather, if that monstera gets too big for you, i'll always have a place in the 125 for it.....lkl

[Heatheranne]

True...thanks Ariel ! Haha! I love that plant! It's pretty big already about 4 ft tall . It's already to my neck level.

[arielgasca420]

helping you helps me.

[Heatheranne]

Hey guys! I was trying to find the type of moss I want and I found this website. I am loving this ID sheet.

What I'm looking for is the bright dark green moss that tends to grow in low growing little balls. You can find it growing in damp areas on the ground here. Any idea of what it is?

[deranged chipmunk]

Are you talking about pillow moss? Or mood moss?

[Heatheranne]

Yes! Thank you! I wasn't sure, but its pillow moss . That's what I'd like for my dart tank. I'm trying to find some epiweb...not having any luck. Though, I did find this....might be able to work with it. I'm still researching it.

http://www.greenroofsolutions.com/mo...ntion_mat.html

[tinkgirl77]

Ok guys, questions for the experts. I have become very interested in adding some kind of moss to my RETF vivarium that is in the works. I have been looking into different types and places to get them. First off, is moss and or lichens a good or bad idea? Second off, where is a good place to buy it from that is frog safe? Or is there a protocol for "cleaning" moss or lichens? Second off, I'm vacationing right now in North Carolina in the mountains and as the snow is melting I found TONS of moss and lichens! Is there a way to collect them from the wild and clean them well enough that they will froggie safe? And would they even grow? Any info or suggestions would be great!!

[deranged chipmunk]

I would collect some, but grow it in a grow tank for a minimum of a month. That way, you can acclimate it and let all it's creepy crawlies get out. Or at least show their faces. Of course, you should give it all a nice cleansing under strong running water. If the lichens are on wood, you may want to peel the bark from where it's growing, unless it's a living tree of course. That would just hurt the tree. Reindeer moss is also a cool addition in case you happen upon some.

[tinkgirl77]

Ok Bill, if I collect some, how and what should i grow them on in a tank? And on the lichens, what can I transplant them to if I do find a piece of bark? And do you know any sites that could help me identify the types? Like for example what does reindeer moss look like?

[deranged chipmunk]

You'll need to transport it home in something, obviously, then you grow it in a covered tank, or a piece of tupperware on the window sill. Something that holds humidity. Teresasplants.com may be able to help you id.

[tinkgirl77]

Awesome. Thanks Bill. I have some gladware I pickef up at grocery fur transport and I was going to sit them on wet paper towels, sound ok for transport? When I get home server put them in real or tupperware, what type of substrate should I grow them on one they are washed thoroughly?

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[fish4all]

I want #12! That ones is right up my alley for what I like in plants. Crazy and unpredictable growth patterns. Is it for sure Draceana fragrans 'Massangeana'?

I haven't seen anyone mention Peperomia. I have 3 different ones in with my Pacific Chorus Frogs and they seem to love them.



Peperomia obtusifolia variegata top left
Peperomia scandens middle
Peperomia obtusifolia bottom left

I wish I had a current picture but there is no way I will get one without having frogs running all over the house, and hopping. The darn things grow super fast in my enclosure and I have trimmed all of them twice, the scandens 3 times and they all need another trim. It doesn't help that it is all in a 10 gallon but they tolerate even the most brutal trimming. Shaky hands can be terrible trimming friends,

The scandens is a little "weak" for the Pacific Chorus frog's as they have beat it down a lot but the obtusifolia stands up to 4 frogs on one leaf.

I do not know for sure if they would grow or survive in a PDF tank or other high humidity tank but in mine they thrive. If I had to venture a guess I would think they should work well in any.

[flybyferns]

Bill,
Did you see the photos I took at the NY Botanical Garden 2 weeks ago?
I tried to take photos of the plants we commonly purchase for our enclosures.

I was hoping I got locked in for the night !!!!!! I walked through the tropical areas about 5 times !!!!
Interesting.......I saw ---one--- black fly ? No creatures !
http://www.frogforum.net/off-topic/2...l-gardens.html

Lynn

[coastal20]

Yes! Thank you! I wasn't sure, but its pillow moss . That's what I'd like for my dart tank. I'm trying to find some epiweb...not having any luck. Though, I did find this....might be able to work with it. I'm still researching it.

Green Roof Solutions

Folius.net has epiweb and firstrays.com has ecoweb, which looks to be the same. I purchased the ecoweb and am currently growing two orchids on it, The roots have just started to show through the back of the ecoweb. I have ordered from both places and have had great service.

[coastal20]

Is this pillow moss? I have a ton of it growing out in the woods.

[UncleChester]

I haven't seen anyone mention Peperomia. I have 3 different ones in with my Pacific Chorus Frogs and they seem to love them.

I'm an official Peperomia cheerleader, with a particular love for Peperomia obtusifolia ​and other thick leaved versions. One of my plain green ones is up to 18" high and has been pruned relentlessly which has resulted in many thick 'branches'. Like a mini tree with perfectly sized leaves as perches for a mid sized treefrog.

They bloom like the end is nigh. Though these are unspectacular in the grand scheme of flowering things, they are noticeable and give a bit of variety so that's nice.

Also easy peasy to propagate by stem or leaf cuttings, so you can hand them out to strangers on the street.

"Peperomias for everyone," he cried!
And there was much joy.

[UncleChester]

The blooms I spoke of on a Peperomia caperata 'chocolate ripple' (as near as I can determine), a low growing bushy version that gives some cover on the ground,



Another terrific feature of Peperomias is they can handle having cramped roots, great for sticking in small background holes, or ignoring when it comes time to re-pot other plants.

[fish4all]

My scandens just recently bloomed. I had heard it is very hard to get them to bloom but it now has 2 and possibly a third one trying to come out. No blooms on my obtusifolia yet but they are a good 16 inches tall and going to be trimmer very soon to start more. They are actually starting to grow sideways because they have grown taller than my lighting. I love the way they bloom, so unique and odd. I am going to try and start some from seed if I ever get my obtusifolia to bloom.

Maybe someday they will bloom in my terrarium once they can grow high enough to not be trimmed back every month or so.

[tinkgirl77]

Is this reindeer moss? Or what is it? I found tons of that missy lichen, pillow moss and a few other species of moss yet to be identified I collected by the waterfalls in the mountains today!

[tinkgirl77]

Ok guys, looking for ppl that have worked with moss. Im vacationing and collected a few different species of moss im bringing home in tupperwares with damp papertowels. I rinsed them very well before packing them up. If anyone can identify any of these let me know. Or if you recognize any I should not use for a viv build in the future.

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#3 I think this is pillow moss.

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