2 pacmans 10 gallons?

[DVirginiana]

does a 20 gallon long tank with a screen for 30 sound like a decent deal

That's what you'd pay for a ten gallon at a petstore. I'd go for it.

[matt palm]

or would i be better off getting a free 10 gallon tank and just buying a screen for 10 bucks

[matt palm]

petsmart has a 20 gallon for 32 brand new

[DVirginiana]

petsmart has a 20 gallon for 32 brand new

Is that with the screen top?? Man, I got ripped off...

The screens are cheap, so if you can get a 10 gallon for free, why not do it? If you're just housing one pac, 10 gallons is plenty big. In fact, most little ones would get freaked out in a 20.

[matt palm]

no it doesnt have screen but id still save like 30 bucks just to take the one from my friend and yeah i feel if i do get a baby it might not find the food right away becasue of how big the tank would be

[GrifTheGreat]

no it doesnt have screen but id still save like 30 bucks just to take the one from my friend and yeah i feel if i do get a baby it might not find the food right away becasue of how big the tank would be

Babies should always be kept in. Smaller enclosures for this exact reason. They need as much food and nutrition as possible.

[matt palm]

thats what i thought. i know this is the wrong but grif you might be able to help my american toads have disappeared in my tank the last 2 days there is no possible way out and they have not eaten the crickets do you have any tips

[GrifTheGreat]

thats what i thought. i know this is the wrong but grif you might be able to help my american toads have disappeared in my tank the last 2 days there is no possible way out and they have not eaten the crickets do you have any tips

Toads will periodically burrow into the substrate and sort of do mini aestivation periods. They will resurface when hungry usually. You can try to bring them out by raising the temp slightly(not much) and maybe the humidity level as well.

How long have they been under?

[matt palm]

i didnt see them at all yesterday and they still arent out now

[GrifTheGreat]

i didnt see them at all yesterday and they still arent out now

So only for a couple days? Are they adults?

You could try and find them in there. Just uncover their heads so they can see. They just might come out to eat the crickets if they see them.

[matt palm]

no they are juveniles i will go do that right now how deep do they usually go because there is abput 3 inches of substrate

[GrifTheGreat]

no they are juveniles i will go do that right now how deep do they usually go because there is abput 3 inches of substrate

Probably all the way down to the bottom. Just be careful.

[matt palm]

i found one and the other followed

[GrifTheGreat]

i found one and the other followed

Ok. They should be fine.

[pansie]

oh my, my pac tries to eat my finger if i put my hand in.. i would never put another frog in with him!

[DVirginiana]

Mine has never tried to bite me... But he won't hesitate to bite my mom. I still don't know how he recognizes me, but it's funny.
Trevor is still in a five gallon and is full grown. Gonna get a 10 gallon in a month or two, but it just illustrates that they really don't need a lot of space. :P

American toads are nocturnal as well I've got a couple 'pet' wild ones that have learned to come up to me for leftover crickets and roaches. They go into holes under my porch during the day, so your little ones might have just been trying to get out of the light... Are the wild caught (not that it really matters, just curious)?

[matt palm]

Yeah i figured ive watched a few videos and they just attack anything that moves

[GrifTheGreat]

Mine has never tried to bite me... But he won't hesitate to bite my mom. I still don't know how he recognizes me, but it's funny.
Trevor is still in a five gallon and is full grown. Gonna get a 10 gallon in a month or two, but it just illustrates that they really don't need a lot of space. :P

American toads are nocturnal as well I've got a couple 'pet' wild ones that have learned to come up to me for leftover crickets and roaches. They go into holes under my porch during the day, so your little ones might have just been trying to get out of the light... Are the wild caught (not that it really matters, just curious)?

They are much smarter than people give them credit for. they can even recognize voices. you would be surprised how smart they are if have time to watch them.

[DVirginiana]

They are much smarter than people give them credit for. they can even recognize voices. you would be surprised how smart they are if have time to watch them.

I've always wondered how good their eyesight is. I know they can sense motion really well, but I'm not sure how sharp they can see detail, like if they could recognize faces (some types of colubrid snakes can recognize faces). Never really thought about the voice thing... Makes sense though.
Regardless, I'm glad he recognizes me as the person he doesn't want to bite, since I've been told it's not pleasant. lol

[matt palm]

American toads are nocturnal as well I've got a couple 'pet' wild ones that have learned to come up to me for leftover crickets and roaches. They go into holes under my porch during the day, so your little ones might have just been trying to get out of the light... Are the wild caught (not that it really matters, just curious)?[/QUOTE]

yeah there is a forest with a swamp behind my house in also literally surrouned by 3 lakes so its very easy for me to find them also in the summer every morning there is a toad in my pool skimmers