You could replace the plastic over flow box in the future. But why cut it? i would definatly cover it so the frogs don't go in there. I would make the cover to br removable so it can be cleaned.
You could replace the plastic over flow box in the future. But why cut it? i would definatly cover it so the frogs don't go in there. I would make the cover to br removable so it can be cleaned.
But you said you liked Don's idea...xD...confused. Hmm...
Edit: So what's the point in "pond" area of the vivarium setup for dart frogs on this forum? As in, the guide for the setup where it shows how to add the drainage layer...it has a pond area, what purpose does that serve? Also, I know some people use PVC couplers (I think they're called) and then the egg crate on top with their drainage layer in some way? How does that work? Would you add the....I forget what it's called..the substrate on top? (It's the three syllable one xD I don't wanna google it because I don't know it and if I just google it I'll forget...)
Last edited by Cody; August 18th, 2011 at 09:30 PM. Reason: See Above.
The vivarium you build is going to be more of what you want for a viv. The drainage area is a place to allow for water to filter down through the substrate and collect below that substrate. If not there, the substrate would eventually become saturated and rot requiring replacement over time. Also, many plant's root systems would have issue with no drainage unless they were plants that thrive on wet soil conditions such as aquatic plants.
There is no need for a pond with dart frogs, but some individuals love the idea of the water feature. Some darts will actually stand in the pond area but its recommended to not have the water level deeper than what the frog can stand in.
The water, especially water with movement such as a drip system or waterfall, will help with humidity, but a sealed up tank with plenty of live plants, a misting system or fogger, will keep your humidity high enough.
I've seen pond areas with no filter system, but you would need to siphon out the water routinely and replace the water.
Since the overflow is already there, looking at Mikes build, you wouldn't have to create an area to access the pump and run hoses since your overflow is already there to hide a pump and hoses.
I think the main thing to determine when designing your build is whether you want a water feature or not.
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii
Well said Don thats why you make the big bucks .lol
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii
That over flow box is a great idea . Its like having a divider wall. You need to separate the pump or drainage away from your substrate. Also its easier to clean back there.
So I'd be able to kind of....hide the overflow box by growing plants off of it and then having a water feature there? As in, not literally "growing the plants off of the box" but I think you get what I mean...
Read through some of the construction journals and you should get some ideas as to how you want to build it.
There are many build journals located in this section of the forum: Vivarium, Terrarium & Enclosure Discussion
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii
I think with how big this tank is and the access with the overflow I HAVE to do a water feature... If I'm gonna do this tank I might as well do it beautifully, right? Chances are I'm only gonna setup a vivarium once, and with a tank this huge at that. So should I follow John's guide on the drainage layer? I know some others use the PVC and egg crate method or something? And I think I understand how to do the background...the foam and moss...I have another question just relating to plants in general. How do you "plant" them for vivariums? Just in the foam/moss?
Edit: Also, temperature... I used to have two bearded dragons until one decided to be a cannibal :[ but I may still have the ceramic lamps I used for their tank...can I use them for a dart vivarium? I would guess not since they probably don't provide enough heat. But how can I provide heat besides using T5 lighting of some sort maybe? I don't wanna spend a fortune on lights but I'll have some money if I sell my aquarium supplies. (Don't know if that'll happen) My house is probably 65° F -70° F all the time..so I dunno what to do.
Last edited by Cody; August 19th, 2011 at 10:35 AM. Reason: See Above.
There is plenty of info on this site on vivs. Its up to you which way you want to go. I'm in the same place as you when it comes to vivs. I have three tanks to transform,or should i start small, since this is my first viv. I like the idea of the water draining tho.
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