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    Hello! Just me again giving you an update.
    I am so excited to let you know that most of my ACF tads have hind legs. They are so cute! Here is a few photos to share with you. Thanks for all your help with my tads. I have lost a few more of the smaller ones that just are not growing. But the older ones are doing great. My 5yrld. son Thomas watches them all the time. He loves them. Right before they started getting their hind legs, I moved them into my 55 gal. tank. All is going really good.
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    Congratulations! LisaAnn. You really did a good job on what is not an easy species to raise from eggs. I am very impressed.

    I'm always amazed at how much these guys look like fish when tadpoles, much more so than almost any other type of frog.
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    Congrats! they look great!
    72 Gallon Bow - ACF and GF tank.
    26 Gallon Bow - ACF tank.

    20 Gallon Long - ACF tank.


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    Congratulations! They are looking great!
    2.0.3 Hyla versicolor "Eastern Gray Tree Frogs"
    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

    0.0.3 Dendrobates auratus "Turquoise and Bronze"
    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    I now have taken the 5 that have both hind and front legs out of my 55gal. and put them alone into an 10gal. tank. They are doing really great. I still feed them the water food solution once a day. Also, they are comming up for air. Is that normal since they still have their tails? Anyway, I will post some more photos and videos soon. ttyl
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    I hope that all of them that is left will do fine. There are still about 5-6 of them that just are not growing. Just waiting to see what happens.
    Thanks Again!
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    Thank you! They are keeping me busy. I now have 5 that have both front and back legs. I can't waite until they all are finally frogs.
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    Best of luck with your tads - i love xenopus and am looking to get a group again myself. They really are very strange looking tads when they develop. They are almost like a catfish and then undergo this alien transformation lol The adults have such characters although sometimes freaked me out when they watched you through the glass lol



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    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    They look weird (in a good way). I'm unfamiliar with ACFs so please could you answer some questions:
    1. What do the frogs eat?
    2. How long do they take to morph from egg to frog without a tail?
    3. Do the frogs live underwater permanently?
    4. Where do they sleep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    They look weird (in a good way). I'm unfamiliar with ACFs so please could you answer some questions:
    1. What do the frogs eat? Young - HBH frog and tadpole bites/Zoomed frog and and tadpole bites (availability depends on where you live). Treat with frozen bloodworms (defrosted prior to feeding.) Adult - Reptomin Sticks, Earth worms. Treat with frozen bloodworms (defrosted prior to feeding.)
    2. How long do they take to morph from egg to frog without a tail? Average morphing time is 8-12 weeks. Every batch is different, you may have froglets at 6 weeks or sometimes 16. Genetics, diet and environment all play factors.
    3. Do the frogs live underwater permanently? Yes. These frog will never leave the water.
    4. Where do they sleep? Underwater or they will "float" at the top. Most often they doze and go up every now and then for a breath of air.

    Hope this helps!
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    26 Gallon Bow - ACF tank.

    20 Gallon Long - ACF tank.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lisaann177 View Post
    I now have taken the 5 that have both hind and front legs out of my 55gal. and put them alone into an 10gal. tank. They are doing really great. I still feed them the water food solution once a day. Also, they are comming up for air. Is that normal since they still have their tails? Anyway, I will post some more photos and videos soon. ttyl
    Sincerely,
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    As they begin developing their front legs, you will notice them developing a slimmer body - more frog shaped. They are fully developing lungs at this point and are absorbing their gills. They are mixing breathing methods through this stage.

    Once they start absorbing their tails, stop feeding. They will be getting all the nutrients they need from the tail they are absorbing.

    As for some "falling behind" so to speak. It happens. It is normal for only 70-60% of tadpoles to make it from egg to froglet. Natures way - that is most likely why they have so many eggs to begin with. Be patient with the stragglers, they may end up morphing fine, if a little late, or they may pass before fully morphing/ morph into a runt.
    72 Gallon Bow - ACF and GF tank.
    26 Gallon Bow - ACF tank.

    20 Gallon Long - ACF tank.


    "If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty. But the chair does look empty; therefore there is an invisible cat in it." C.S. Lewis, Four Loves, 1958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenste View Post
    Hope this helps!
    Thanks that's great info. One more question what would they eat in the wild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    Thanks that's great info. One more question what would they eat in the wild?
    In the wild they would feed off of small fish and other small amphibians.

    Please do not consider replicating this in the home aquarium - there is no reason to replicate a natural diet when you could never fully replicate the natural environment.
    72 Gallon Bow - ACF and GF tank.
    26 Gallon Bow - ACF tank.

    20 Gallon Long - ACF tank.


    "If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty. But the chair does look empty; therefore there is an invisible cat in it." C.S. Lewis, Four Loves, 1958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenste View Post
    In the wild they would feed off of small fish and other small amphibians.

    Please do not consider replicating this in the home aquarium - there is no reason to replicate a natural diet when you could never fully replicate the natural environment.
    I wish I could keep these frogs but NZ has such strict laws all we can keep are the Green and Golden Bell frogs, Southern Bell frogs and Whistling Tree frogs

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