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    Well, the Whites tree frog is taking to its new home quite well. At first it just sat in the same spot for about a day. Now it's wondering around, climbing on the glass and soaking in the 2nd bowl of water I put in there this morning...





    I'll work on my photo skills. I need to just charge the battery for my wifes camera and use it lol.

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    Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

    This was not intended to start any forum drama ; just spreading some info i heard

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    Default Re: New here....put together a cool tree frog set up.

    Your frogs are from different parts of the world. All frogs have toxins at the skin level and every frog has somewhat different toxins. As they soak in water dishes, and toxins from their skins bleed off into the water, they slowly poison each other and although no immediate signs will show, they will eventually become ill.

    Your Whites will also eat the smaller frogs once the size difference is right.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefrognewbie View Post
    Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

    This was not intended to start any forum drama <img src="http://www.frogforum.net/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg"> ; just spreading some info i heard
    As a general statement, that's a load of rubbish. Maybe it was purple-monkey-dish-washered from "Never mix frogs form different continents" into what you've said here (the one does not imply the other). That would be common advice on the grounds of no natural resistance to foreign diseases (think smallpox and Native Americans).

    Common example cited in books on species in my area (Ontario) is the Pickerel Frog. It will do in other species that could have been collected from the same pond if you put them in a confined space together (like a terrarium, or a bucket) by its toxins. Forget same continent, this is the same pond. (edit- and a prime example of why you should NEVER EVER mix species if you don't know what you are doing)

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    I'm glad you guys know your stuff. he obviously doesnt.

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    Default Re: New here....put together a cool tree frog set up.

    I don't think a point of doesn't, but more miss informed or informed on a level not taking into consideration amount of area provided the animals. IE: land mass over confined space. Sharing small amounts of water over a large mass of water able to dilute and filter toxins.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    i'm going to make my own thread for this, so i don't ask any questions on this one.

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    Default Re: New here....put together a cool tree frog set up.

    Hey Matt.
    One thought here would be to split that viv right down the middle with a piece of plexi.... split the beautiful piece of wood to use one piece on each side. Two separate homes in one beautiful enclosure.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: New here....put together a cool tree frog set up.

    Since green anoles and green treefrogs co-exist in nature, the risks of keeping them together are less IMO, than mixing frog species from different ecosystems, but the dynamic changes in the confines of a viv. When I was a kid (back in the day when aquariums had stainless steel frames - HA) I used to toss treefrogs in with anoles and even a toad or two. One or more usually went missing after a time. Now that I know better, I have my youngest son keep his critters in separate vivs.

    Regarding mixing species of frogs, that is a big can of worms, but there are a lot of good, scientifically sound reasons not to keep them together.

    If you are still having trouble finding the green treefrogs, check the viv with a flashlight a couple of hours after dark.

    Good luck and welcome to FrogForum.

    Edit - Oh and the viv looks fantastic! That is one of the coolest pieces of driftwood I've ever seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treefrognewbie View Post
    Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

    This was not intended to start any forum drama ; just spreading some info i heard
    Last edited by JimO; August 2nd, 2011 at 06:08 PM. Reason: Add a comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    Edit - Oh and the viv looks fantastic! That is one of the coolest pieces of driftwood I've ever seen.
    Thanks! I wish I would have took pics of the other GIANT piece we found at our local beach up in MD over a year ago. I started to retrieve it. 30 min of digging it out of the sand with a shovel, and scheduled boat drag 2 miles off the base, and found out that someone had already claimed it..(and dugg it up prior to me)

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