New here....put together a cool tree frog set up.

[throttlejunkie1]

Ok I added a bigger water bowl in addition to the other one. One in the front and one in the back. I was @ Home Depot picking up some patio furniture and I browsed throught garden center. Anybody have anything to recommend because I want to add some live plants. Also, I'm going to assume that commercial grown plants have chemicals to keep the bugs away...if so, whats to be done about that?

Also, the anoles have been put back where I got them, but the green tree frogs are really hard to find in there. I see one but I can't reach it so it'll have to stay for now.

[Kisa]

Ok I added a bigger water bowl in addition to the other one. One in the front and one in the back. I was @ Home Depot picking up some patio furniture and I browsed throught garden center. Anybody have anything to recommend because I want to add some live plants. Also, I'm going to assume that commercial grown plants have chemicals to keep the bugs away...if so, whats to be done about that?

Also, the anoles have been put back where I got them, but the green tree frogs are really hard to find in there. I see one but I can't reach it so it'll have to stay for now.

Well as soon as you find the other frog I recommend you take them out. The White's will probably eat them when it gets big enough. Also the anoles will probably stress the frogs out. Glad you're separating them.

[UncleChester]

I was @ Home Depot picking up some patio furniture and I browsed throught garden center. Anybody have anything to recommend because I want to add some live plants. Also, I'm going to assume that commercial grown plants have chemicals to keep the bugs away...if so, whats to be done about that?

Remove the plant from the pot and wash it clean of potting soil under the tap and rinse off the foliage. Plant in your viv or repot in a safe substrate and put it in your viv if you prefer.

As for plants, Pothos (aka Devil's Ivy), is a standard choice and it comes in a couple of different foliage colours ranging from green, marbled, to golden (rarer). It's easy to grow, propagates readily from cuttings in water, and can withstand some abuse. Can be positioned high in the tank to trail or will climb up stuff if it's rooted in a lower position. I've found the leaves tend to get larger when allowed to climb instead of trail.

Sansevieria, aka snake plants, are good tough choices as well. Robust enough to handle a White's and comes in various shapes and colours. Most varieties will eventually get too tall for your tank, but they do grow rather slow and by this point will usually have shot up many smaller leaves so you can just take it out, divide it, and put back in the shorter bits.

My American Green enjoys his Maranta, aka prayer plant, from Home Depot, but the thinner delicate leaves might get trashed by a full grown Whites.

Various Peperomia's, Draecena's, Philodendron's, Orchid's, and Bromeliad's are usually available at Home Depot as well.

[throttlejunkie1]

Well, the Whites tree frog is taking to its new home quite well. At first it just sat in the same spot for about a day. Now it's wondering around, climbing on the glass and soaking in the 2nd bowl of water I put in there this morning...





I'll work on my photo skills. I need to just charge the battery for my wifes camera and use it lol.

[Treefrognewbie]

Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

This was not intended to start any forum drama ; just spreading some info i heard

[DonLisk]

Your frogs are from different parts of the world. All frogs have toxins at the skin level and every frog has somewhat different toxins. As they soak in water dishes, and toxins from their skins bleed off into the water, they slowly poison each other and although no immediate signs will show, they will eventually become ill.

Your Whites will also eat the smaller frogs once the size difference is right.

[UncleChester]

Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

This was not intended to start any forum drama <img src="http://www.frogforum.net/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg"> ; just spreading some info i heard

As a general statement, that's a load of rubbish. Maybe it was purple-monkey-dish-washered from "Never mix frogs form different continents" into what you've said here (the one does not imply the other). That would be common advice on the grounds of no natural resistance to foreign diseases (think smallpox and Native Americans).

Common example cited in books on species in my area (Ontario) is the Pickerel Frog. It will do in other species that could have been collected from the same pond if you put them in a confined space together (like a terrarium, or a bucket) by its toxins. Forget same continent, this is the same pond. (edit- and a prime example of why you should NEVER EVER mix species if you don't know what you are doing)

[Treefrognewbie]

I'm glad you guys know your stuff. he obviously doesnt.

[DonLisk]

I don't think a point of doesn't, but more miss informed or informed on a level not taking into consideration amount of area provided the animals. IE: land mass over confined space. Sharing small amounts of water over a large mass of water able to dilute and filter toxins.

[JimO]

Since green anoles and green treefrogs co-exist in nature, the risks of keeping them together are less IMO, than mixing frog species from different ecosystems, but the dynamic changes in the confines of a viv. When I was a kid (back in the day when aquariums had stainless steel frames - HA) I used to toss treefrogs in with anoles and even a toad or two. One or more usually went missing after a time. Now that I know better, I have my youngest son keep his critters in separate vivs.

Regarding mixing species of frogs, that is a big can of worms, but there are a lot of good, scientifically sound reasons not to keep them together.

If you are still having trouble finding the green treefrogs, check the viv with a flashlight a couple of hours after dark.

Good luck and welcome to FrogForum.

Edit - Oh and the viv looks fantastic! That is one of the coolest pieces of driftwood I've ever seen.

Okay, so ; a friend on facebook, is a friend with a world famous herptologist. And my friend told me, that the herptologist said, you can mix species, as long as they aren't from different continents. I don't know if this is true, but he is a herptologist. And a famous one at that!

This was not intended to start any forum drama ; just spreading some info i heard

[throttlejunkie1]

Edit - Oh and the viv looks fantastic! That is one of the coolest pieces of driftwood I've ever seen.

Thanks! I wish I would have took pics of the other GIANT piece we found at our local beach up in MD over a year ago. I started to retrieve it. 30 min of digging it out of the sand with a shovel, and scheduled boat drag 2 miles off the base, and found out that someone had already claimed it..(and dugg it up prior to me)