Red-Eyed Tree Frogs?

[Rae]

Sheet Moss is prefered over spaghnum moss... less likely so be eaten by the frogs and harder for the crickets to hide in.

[ViperJr]

You are right about that. However, sheet moss is more likely to grow mold and turn bad is very mosit and wet envoirments, especially if the wetness is constantly. At least, that's what I've understand when reading about the different mosses. I could be wrong.
On a side note, when talking about RETF, the digestion of substrate is quite uncommon and should not happen, since they are not a ferocious eaters as other frogs. A food bowl should also be used, if you ask me, and that effectivly reduces the impaction-risk.

[Treefrognewbie]

do you know if they will eat frozen blood worms? I bought some at petsmart, because i was told to feed them blood worms, but i never tried it

[ViperJr]

Amphibeans can not see objects that do not move, so they will generally not eat objects that do not move. Even slow mowing preys like different kind of worms can be "slow moving" enough for frogs to ignore. I've read that RETF seldomly eat worms, However, I can not comfirm this myself, since I have not tried.
The most common food for RETF are crickets, which they can be feed on as a staple diet, as long as the crickets are powderd with the right supplements. Blaptica dubia (a common, easy to breed cockroach) is also good food, even better than crickets from a nutrion point of view. They get quite large, so only juveniles of correct size can be used.

[Treefrognewbie]

i feed them crickets, but don't have the powder yet. Thank you for reminding me! That's what i was trying to remember to get the next time i go to Petsmart!

and sometimes roaches get in my house(big and small). Are those safe to use as food? and then maybe keep a couple to try to breed?

[ViperJr]

Wild cought insect can contain both dangerous parasites and pesticides, so it' potentionally dangerous. I would recommend buying a few B dubia (not very expensive at all) and breed them instead, if you want to breed roaches as feeders. They are easy, good food and are alot easier than crickets to breed. You can find several care sheet by googling. Youtube have alot of instruction videos as well! Just rememeber, you will need to feed the frogs the small, juvenile roaches.


EDIT: Just got a brand new picture of the same terrarium. Thought I add it as well, just to show you much difference it makes to let the plants grow:
http://www.frogforum.net/members/vip...-new-front.jpg

[Treefrognewbie]

my mom would FREEAAAAAAAK if i bought roaches! ;D It's bad enough when she sees them in the house. hahaha, but i was going to try to breed some crickets too. Maybe i'll go with the roaches. since you recommend them. and that's a great looking viv! Thanks for the help!

[ViperJr]

Let me help you convince you mother:

Crickets: They smell bad. They are fast runners (difficult to catch). They jump. They make noise. The lay eggs. They eat smaller crickets.

B dubia: Practicly odourless. Slow moving. Can not jump, nor climp smoth surfaces (like a plastic box). They do not make any noise. The give birth to live roaches. They are not cannibals.

This means that you need at least 3-4 different boxes for crickets, seperating the eggs and then orginazing them by size. With dubias, you just have one box for everything. If you have a plastic box that's quite high, it's very unlikely that they escape. And if you drop one, they are slow, so you'll catch them.
Also, they are not listed as pests, at least not in Sweden. Don't know about US though.

I've heard alot of people complaining about breeding crickets as feeders. Never heard anything bad about breeding B dubia.

[Treefrognewbie]

well, you convinced me, for sure! haha Crickets sound way too complicated.

do you know if i can find them at petsmart or petco? that's where i usually go for pet supplies.

[ViperJr]

We don't have Pecto or PetSmart here in Sweden, so I can not answer that. However, they are not avaible at the usual pet stores here. But I can't imagine that they are hard to find in the US, since they are easy to get here. Might be someone here that sales them. If not, just look at a local (or national) reptile website. I'm sure it will not be a problem to find.

[Treefrognewbie]

Oh, sorry, Didn't pay attention to the nationality! haha i'll check the petco and petsmart websites

[froglover27]

Excuse me Treefrognewbie, i dont mean to be rude, but would you mind making your own thread in the tree frog forum? Thanks! Not trying to be rude......and I'm sorry if I am That wasy you could get helpful information from lots of people. Good luck with your red-eyed leaf frog!!(: Sorry again to bother you

[Treefrognewbie]

no, I'M SORRY.. this was before i figured out how to make a new thread. Haha, i'm new to the site and still figuring it out. Sorry to bother you.

[froglover27]

no, I'M SORRY.. this was before i figured out how to make a new thread. Haha, i'm new to the site and still figuring it out. Sorry to bother you.

Oh no worries(: Its okay(: I didnt mean to be a jerk or anything(:

[Treefrognewbie]

i would rather hear that, than go to Cichlids.com and get criticism. I like this forum much better

i got my answers, so i'm all good now, Have a good night/day!

[froglover27]

i would rather hear that, than go to Cichlids.com and get criticism. I like this forum much better

i got my answers, so i'm all good now, Have a good night/day!

Thanks and again Im sorry for the trouble(:

[Logqan]

As far as the substrate question I like using a drainage layer of something such as lava rock/clay pellets/false bottom etc. I have used all these types and really it just depends on how you want it to look they all work great. Then I add a layer of cocofiber mixed with sphagnum moss.

For looks as well as a nice top layer that cant be ingested I use magnolia leaves to cover my substrate. This helps it look like a forest floor and like I said before it also would be hard to ingest. Decaying leaf matter also promotes detritus feeders such as springtails and isopods which can be great for the breakdown of extra waste.

I use live plants all the way! Not only do they make it look more natural and they grow creating new and more dense areas but they can be just as fun to care for and keep as the frogs themselves. The plants like previously mentioned help with air quality and humidity and they can also absorb excess waste from the frogs providing a nice fertilizer for the plants.

My top recommended plants would be: pothos, peace lilies, chinese evergreen, hoya, and most philodendrons.

As previously mentioned I agree that a well planted 10 gallon can be better than a larger tank. No matter what size you choose make sure the vegetation is dense, as I have seen said many times "frogs don't float in air".
Good luck
Logan

[froglover27]

As far as the substrate question I like using a drainage layer of something such as lava rock/clay pellets/false bottom etc. I have used all these types and really it just depends on how you want it to look they all work great. Then I add a layer of cocofiber mixed with sphagnum moss.

For looks as well as a nice top layer that cant be ingested I use magnolia leaves to cover my substrate. This helps it look like a forest floor and like I said before it also would be hard to ingest. Decaying leaf matter also promotes detritus feeders such as springtails and isopods which can be great for the breakdown of extra waste.

I use live plants all the way! Not only do they make it look more natural and they grow creating new and more dense areas but they can be just as fun to care for and keep as the frogs themselves. The plants like previously mentioned help with air quality and humidity and they can also absorb excess waste from the frogs providing a nice fertilizer for the plants.

My top recommended plants would be: pothos, peace lilies, chinese evergreen, hoya, and most philodendrons.

As previously mentioned I agree that a well planted 10 gallon can be better than a larger tank. No matter what size you choose make sure the vegetation is dense, as I have seen said many times "frogs don't float in air".
Good luck
Logan

What great information Logan!!(: haha thanks(:

[Kisa]

You're very welcome. Always ready to help a fellow frogger in need.

Sorry this is in a weird spot, I'm still getting used to the new forum.