Frog help need now

[pj1298]

hi guys this is my 1st post im at my dads today and when we were outside we found a little baby frog. hes only an inch big and he was on the street in a big parking lot so we picked him up and took him home. we got some rocks and a stick , cleaned them off and now hes in my old 1 gallon betta bowl until we go home tomorrow and put him into a terriarium. hes really only an inch big or smaller so would an 2.5 aquarium work? its completly empty and was thinking of keeping him in it until i coud get a bigger one. i have kept bullfrogs befor and have some experience with amphibian keeping. thanks

[LilyPad]

What kind of frog is it? I wouldn't recommend keeping any kind of frog in a 2.5 gallon tank.

[DonLisk]

hi guys this is my 1st post im at my dads today and when we were outside we found a little baby frog. hes only an inch big and he was on the street in a big parking lot so we picked him up and took him home. we got some rocks and a stick , cleaned them off and now hes in my old 1 gallon betta bowl until we go home tomorrow and put him into a terriarium. hes really only an inch big or smaller so would an 2.5 aquarium work? its completly empty and was thinking of keeping him in it until i coud get a bigger one. i have kept bullfrogs befor and have some experience with amphibian keeping. thanks

The 2.5 is too small but please read the below thread for making an inexpensive, and easy home for your new frog.

Keep in mind that you need to ID him and read the applicable care sheet. He needs a proper home with the right temps and humidity, the correct substrate and the means to climb or dig or hide to reduce stress and thrive.

Post pics and heres that link:
http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...-vivarium.html

[pj1298]

I'm pretty sure he's a American toad for sure. I can get pics on either tomorrow or the day after that.

[pj1298]

so today i got either a 4 gallon or 5 gallon aquarium for him. i put some dry dirt some moist dirt , some tree bark and lots of grass for him to burrow in. hes been burrowing a lot and its so cute i went to petsmart to get his aquarium but they didn't have any insect except a little box with crickets in it. it said to punch out a little hole in the little door and place it in the vivaquarium ( sorry i dont know how to spell that so i refer to it as aquarium ). so i did and half of the crickets came out so i put the box into the old betta bowl he was in and now theres like 11 crickets in their. he ate 2 or 3.

[LilyPad]

Keep the crickets in a separate container than your toad so that they dont chew on your toad at all and only feed a couple a day, especially considering it's such a small tank as it is. 4 or 5 gallons is still very small. Also, make sure you gutload your crickets with nutritious foods and dust them with vitamins to keep your toad healthy. Do you have a place for your toad to soak?

[pj1298]

no i am getting one tomorrow and have been misting him until i can get it. how do i remove the spare crickets from his tank? could i use tweezers on the antennas?

[LilyPad]

You could just pick them out with your fingers, or give them something to munch on like an orange cube from the store or just an ordinary orange slice until your toad cleans them out. I dont know if toads are gluttons like my tree frogs are though, if it is, you might want to get them removed.

[nicodimus22]

You could just pick them out with your fingers, or give them something to munch on like an orange cube from the store or just an ordinary orange slice until your toad cleans them out. I dont know if toads are gluttons like my tree frogs are though, if it is, you might want to get them removed.

Toads are gluttons, but if your toad is full and you leave a bunch of crickets in there with him, they may start to munch on your toad, which is less than optimal. I would pick them out with your fingers or tweezers until he's ready to eat again.

[pj1298]

well most of the crickets are huge and are bigger than he is so i picked them out and left 3 little baby crickets. there a little bigger than his eye so i figured keep them in their instead of killing them in the process of taking them out with tweezers. i got them all out by tweezers. i got them by their big hind legs they use for jumping. now half of them only have one of those big legs but those ones kept jumping so i figured there ok what can i feed them to keep them alive? i dont have any oranges right now so what other food id find around the house would work? im planning on starting a small culture and feed some of the small ones to him instead of buying the ones i got and having 17 big ones and 9 small ones. and are the boxes of live crickets you find at petsmart gut loaded?

[LilyPad]

I feed them any fruits and veggies I happen to have leftover. Carrots, spinach or other dark green lettuces. I also give them a bit of fish food and even some cheerios. I mix a vitamin supplement in with it and feed the crickets. They seem to do well with it and all my tree frogs are quite healthy!

[DonLisk]

Hey PJ,
The crickets you feed should be no bigger than the width of your frogs head. Although he can force it down, its better to feed something more reasonable to swallow.

Sounds like you should pick up some more small crickets.

You can also put a piece of Potato in with the crickets to feed them while your waiting to get some gutload.

[pj1298]

Cool I have tons of left over veggies he's been eating alot. I keep one spare cricket in his cage so if I'm gone he will just eat it. When I leave the one cricket in their he keeps hiding I guess cause he doesn't have any cricket friend that will get eaten instead of him wheres a good chain store to buy adult crickets at do I can start a culture and now since he's eating more I'll poblably split half on the little crickets. Half to continue the culture and half for feeding purposes.

[pj1298]

i got him a water dish today he went into it and stayed their for a couple minutes and then kept going in and out. hes so cute.

[Froog]

Sounds like you are doing okay. But the crickets need to be smaller! (As Don said) the crickets should be no bigger than the width of the frogs head! Your toad will not be happy if the crickets are eating him! So, I would get smaller crickets!

[pj1298]

Until I can start my cricket culture I will just buy them at petsmart and make sure their small enough for him to eat and cover them in the special powder vitamins.

[pj1298]

so i have been watching him and he looks really happy i dont know if i should redo his home caus i feel like i did it wrong. does anyone know what a toad tank should look like? i keep on thinking im not doing it right but he seems happy jumping around into his little pool and burrowing. i put 3 inches of potting soil with some pieces of tree bark that doesnt have any pesticides or fertilizer in it for his substrate but i keep on reading coconut fiber is also a better choice to. i have some rocks that are bigger than him in their for him to hop on and a stick that i put for no reason . should i switch the potting soil with the tree bark for coconut fiber? and his pool is filled to the same height as his head but i put this rock that the top is tilted for him to get in and out and left a deep spot for him to get all of himself wet. ill post pics in another reply in a sec.

[pj1298]

i finally was able to get my pics onto the computer here they are. the left part of the tank on the top

the right part of the tank from the right

the whole tank from the top

thats todo i got the name from the wizard of oz hes on top of the rock

thats the whole tank from the front

[GreenLeader49]

My one concern is the size of the tank going forward. I think in the near future you should either make a budget tank (as Don Lisk) suggested or invest in a 10 or more gallon tank. Heck, depending on where you live, I would be up for giving/mailing you an extra 10 gallon I have! Send me a private message, and I help get you that larger tank.

[Baelari]

Be careful with the potting soil. A lot of potting soil has fertilizer added to it, or those little styrofoam balls that could cause an impaction. Eco-earth (coconut fiber) is safe, easy, and pretty cheap, so I would switch to that if I were you.

Also, I think toads might appreciate a coconut hut, or piece of cork bark, or something similar to hide under.