Ranitomeya vanzolinii - Boldness?

[rcteem]

You just answered another question I had. I was wondering if darts experience any genetic issues if they are bred from related parents, but if it's not that big of an issue I don't think I'll be picky about it in the future. Though I'd rather the parents be unrelated I guess...but maybe I'm putting too much stock in it. XD;

No issues you need to worry about...they can go a long time before you need to worry...mixd parent groups is always good except with pumilio...since there are so many different locales always try to breed pumilio with the same year import if at all possible...that's a topic for another thread though

Also for the OP, I have 5 vanzolini froglets for sale if interested shoot me a pm


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[Kisa]

No issues you need to worry about...they can go a long time before you need to worry...mixd parent groups is always good except with pumilio...since there are so many different locales always try to breed pumilio with the same year import if at all possible...that's a topic for another thread though

Also for the OP, I have 5 vanzolini froglets for sale if interested shoot me a pm


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Alright. Thanks for the info.

I'd still like to hear from other members on the issue of boldness. I'd like to get some different opinions from all sides please!

[bshmerlie]

I think its a general consensus that they're not as bold as some of the other dart species out there. But if its a frog you really want , do like I plan on doing with my Benedicta. Im going to get a group of them and Hopefull I can pick out a pair that will be the boldest of the bunch. That is also going to allow me to hopefully find a pair that will breed. So breeding and sort of bold would work for me.

On a side note. These guys are pretty small. I still think your first darts should be some of the larger species. Sometimes baby steps make the trip more enjoyable. Getting baby thumbnails is a huge step from Whites Tree frogs. You can get a more beginner species, learn from them and then sell them and move onto something more challenging. Jumping to the end game doesn't always have the best results. Its nothing to be ashamed of. Learning is why we are here. I started off with fire bellies...the easiest frogs out there. Went to some tree frogs. Then got the easiest and boldest and biggest adult darts I could find. Then I got some baby darts. Then I got some thumbnails. Then some baby thumbnails. Then I wanted to breed so I got a pair of the most prolific breeders I could find...the E.Anthonyi. Now im learning about egg and tadpole care. Learn, plan and prepare. Baby steps are a good thing for you and the frogs.

[Kisa]

Oh I absolutely agree about baby steps. XD I would never try out thumbs first, do you think I'm insane? I'm not Eric. Vents were his first darts right? Crazy person. XD ...Or maybe just really brave...

This whole thread was about learning, planning and preparing before I jumped into getting some vanzos, I even PM'd some people to ask about their experience and the size tanks they're keeping they're frogs in too. I want to make sure I provide the safest and most comfortable home for any frogs I have and to make sure that they're happy and healthy.

But for some reason it seems I'm drawn to the frogs that have a reputation for being shy...D. auratus were my first choice...heard they're quite shy as well. XD;

[rcteem]

Oh I absolutely agree about baby steps. XD I would never try out thumbs first, do you think I'm insane? I'm not Eric. Vents were his first darts right? Crazy person. XD ...Or maybe just really brave...

This whole thread was about learning, planning and preparing before I jumped into getting some vanzos, I even PM'd some people to ask about their experience and the size tanks they're keeping they're frogs in too. I want to make sure I provide the safest and most comfortable home for any frogs I have and to make sure that they're happy and healthy.

But for some reason it seems I'm drawn to the frogs that have a reputation for being shy...D. auratus were my first choice...heard they're quite shy as well. XD;

Good keep it up!!! Im glad to see people doing this. Im always happier to help answer questions people have before getting their frogs vs having their frogs before they know what they need and how to care for them. ALSO, a little birdie told me someone is getting some vanzos soon so maybe after a while they can contribute to this thread!!!

[Kisa]

ALSO, a little birdie told me someone is getting some vanzos soon so maybe after a while they can contribute to this thread!!!

Oh? And who would that be? >>

[John]

Chris means me. I have held off on these guys for a long time in the hopes that Understory would eventually start selling them in the US again, but Mark Pepper seems to be afraid of helping to launder the lines already here, I think. Pity really.