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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Highum View Post
    The toad is probably an american toad. Bufo Americanus. It also kind of resembles a Fowler's toad, Bufo fowleri.
    I'm not sure american toads have that stripe down their backs. My guess would be fowler's.

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    Sorry it was just an educated guess but the cranial crests don't look like fowler's really. also i have not a clue as to your frog.

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    Well, I am from Salt Lake City, Utah - and I hope they aren't wild caught. I've never even seen a frog in the wild here, but I wouldn't really know where to look.

    I will separate them. I have them in a 20 gallon tank right now, and I think that there is plenty of room.

    The guy at the pet store had this big toad in the same tank with 5 small frogs, but I have noticed that the little one isn't eating - so I am going to get a 10 gallon for the little guy. I don't think he'll get as big as the toad, which is about 4 inches right now.

    I have a ton of eco-earth Coconut fibre substrate that I keep on supply for my spiders. I will trade out the current substrate for this, since it seems that the rocks could present the risk of impaction? I only have the rocks because this is what the pet store recommended.

    Also, I don't think that the toad is Bufo fowleri because it doesn't have a single spot on it's belly. Bufo fowleri have a single dark spot, right?

    I know that pet stores have a very bad habit of giving inaccurate information, and that's why I came here. These were being sold together as "Green Tree Frogs", for instance.

    I read somewhere (if I recall) that the bufo genus is very poisonous... Is this true?

    I have been feeding large crickets to the toad, after spraying a calcium spray onto them and waiting a few minutes. I am not sure if the calcium spray is helpful. Is it?

    Sorry for all of the questions. I am just trying to make sure they are going to be okay! If I get a 20 gallon tank for the little guy and do a half-water tank, will he swim? I have noticed him pushing off when the water bowl is filled, so I think that he is a swimmer. Would it hurt to give him a fairly-water filled habitat? If not, this would be fun

    Thank you all for your help. My frog/toad will appreciate it

    Also, after looking at the toad - based on Tom's diagram - the toad looks like Bufo fowleri.

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    Yeah pet stores are not very trust able. Your toad will probably love the Eco-earth and will be found buried in it. Do you treat your water for chlorine and chloramines (probably misspelled) if you don't you probably should. Yes he is considered venomous. Its not his bite though its the bulges on each side of his neck behind his eyes, called parotid glands. They are filled with toxins that vary with species but most are not considered life threatening. They are triggered when someone squeezes them like if an animal tried to eat them. The venom can be avoided by washing you hands thoroughly after handling them and avoiding touching your eyes, mouth, nose or getting it in cuts. I am not trying to freak you out you are not in danger from the toad just giving the facts. The frog will probably enjoy the 10 if it has a large source of clean water.
    Do you gut load your crickets?

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    Gut loaded crickets are a necessary thing, as I have some very large tarantulas - and I figure the toad needs more food than they do!

    I don't treat my water for that stuff. I usually buy distilled water from the store in 3 gallon cartons. I don't know how to treat normal tap water, but I would like to know!

    Will the rana frog swim if I were to provide it a 20 gallon tank half full of water, or will it stick to the dry area?

    Thanks again

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    Yea it would enjoy a half and half tank i would think. There are water treatments to remove that stuff, you can buy them at pet stores. also don't use distilled water for amphibians because it doesn't contain the necessary minerals the exception in misting systems.

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    American Toad or Woodhouse's Toad, not sure which. I'm not sure on the frog. Don't keep them together and don't keep them like that. We have a Toad care sheet linked on the left of every site page. As for the frog, we really need to figure out what it is first.
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    How can we figure out what kind of frog it is? And what kind of water should I use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by into View Post
    I'm not sure american toads have that stripe down their backs. My guess would be fowler's.
    Anaxyrus americanus does have a stripe down the middle of the back. Without hitting the books for a possitive ID, I would say its an americanus.

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